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70-million-year-old T-rex yields soft tissue…

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  1. swilkins

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  3. KingCheetah

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    Team claims second batch of soft dinosaur tissue

    A team of researchers led by the N.C. State University scientist famed for the controversial discovery of soft tissue in the fossilized bone of a 68 million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex in 2005 has found more soft tissue in an even older dinosaur skeleton.

    Results of the more recent discovery, from the femur of an 80 million-year-old duckbill dinosaur, appear today in the journal Science. The new evidence not only undermines skeptics of Mary Schweitzer's earlier work, but also may offer clues about where more bones with such material may be found. That could help other scientists replicate the findings and investigate how such delicate material could last for such an extraordinary length of time.

    Schweitzer is an associate professor of marine, earth and atmospheric science at NCSU and has a joint appointment to the staff of N.C. Museum of Natural Sciences. She and John Asara, a pathologist at Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, were the principal authors of the paper. They collaborated with a team of researchers, including several from Montana State University.



    A crew including Schweitzer and some of her students dug the duckbill femur out of a Montana cliff in 2007, after other research suggested that soft tissue may be more common in bones that had been buried quickly in deep sandstone.

    They left a layer of stone around the bone to help preserve any soft tissue that might be inside and reduce the potential for contamination, Schweitzer said. That meant retrieving a chunk of rock and old bone that weighed 750 pounds, a feat that involved fashioning a sled from an old truck hood and dragging it up the cliff with a winch.

    Then the crew rushed the rock and bone back to Raleigh, where the testing and examination began. Some of the material was eventually shipped to Asara's lab in Massachusetts.

    Some critics had said the earlier study wasn't elaborate enough. This time, the researchers subjected the bone and its contents to more thorough analysis, including examination by more sensitive equipment and verification of the results by several independent labs.

    As with the T. rex bone, there was no DNA, the code stored in cells that acts as a blueprint for every living thing, which may keep the talk of recreating live dinosaurs to a minimum this time. But the bits of protein provided at least some information about the dinosaur, including support for the theory that dinosaurs are more closely related to modern birds than reptiles such as alligators, something supported by the earlier T. rex study.

    Thomas Kaye, a fossil researcher with the Burke Museum of Natural History and Culture in Seattle, remains skeptical that Schweitzer and her team have found dinosaur tissue. Last year, Kaye joined researchers in Poland and California in writing a paper published in an online journal suggesting that material her team believed was blood vessels was actually more recent biological contamination from slime that grew after moisture invaded the channels in the bones which once held blood vessels.

    Kaye said Thursday that the new study shows material with structure similar to that in the earlier one. He said that the team found barely detectable amounts of protein that they believe came from the dinosaur and said that if the researchers had found real dinosaur blood vessels large enough to be visible, as those in the studies are, they would contain vast amounts of it.

    He noted that the paper mentions that Schweitzer's team had also found some bacterial protein, which could be consistent with his slime theory.

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    A HUGE debate would rage on whether or not to clone this thing.

    Here's what I propose. As someone said, I say we go ahead and clone these things. Only clone one at a time. That's all you need. Then, you take the one, send it to a remote island somewhere that is owned by the US. The island would only have to be a couple of acres. Clear the island of most trees. Plant the island with thousands of cameras.

    From there, you take convicted murders and rapists, give them a sword and a knife, and drop them off on this island. This accomplishes so many things. First of all, it's a throwback shout-out to the Romans. Second of all, it would earn some Broadcasting network (probably Fox would be the first to do it) billions of dollars. Third, it would more than likely curb the violent crimes this country sees. Last, but not least, it would shut all those He-Man wannabe reality-hating dudes up.



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    Clone it = U.S. wins war on terror with new-age weapons:

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    oh bill
     
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    Seriously, how much would you pay to see Charles Manson vs. Fluffy the T-Rex?
     
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    Jurassic Park, here we come!

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    George Carlin's solution for overcrowded prisons.. meets Jurassic Park..?
     
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    God, I love(d) George Carlin.


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  11. dntrwl

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    clone them, then harvest them for food. tastes like chicken
     
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    seems like it would be pretty hard to clone something if there is no dna
     
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    Now, I'm stuck watching his Complaints and Grievances skit. I have to be up in 6 hours, too. :(
     
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    Make it happen.
     
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    They should clone Michael Crichton first before they do any funny business with dino dna.
     
  16. Lil Pun

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    Dino-Riders!!!
     
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    Fox would air it and then Fox News would condemn the idea behind the show. Double whammy for Fox!!!!!
     
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    Excellent. The dinosaur army will be compelte.
     
  19. DrewP

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    yesssssssssss
     
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    How does the existence of dinosaurs prove evolution???
     

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