We are blowing big leads. This is a team problem. It looks to me like we just want to run clock and hit an outside jumper with a lead in the 4th quarter. We have to continue running our offense late in the game.
Huh? I thought it was 24 on 20 and 13 on 11? Just trying to understand. And would two extra points per shot shoot you from below average to above average? Neither is really that fantastic. Although Yao's is so far from his norm, it's pretty embarassing.
note to all the idiots that can't read: this thread isn't denying that yao had a bad game, or that tmac took an ill advised game winning shot...the POINT of this thread is to point out that TMAC didn't lose us this game, YAO didn't lose us this game (that is on an individual level) but rather the 4th quarter execution and shooting woes lost us that game, we took bad shots, did not pass the ball, and even called bad plays (the last play) it was a collective bad effort that lost us this game, THAT IS ALL HE IS SAYING, don't blame yao for losing this game, because the reason we got 3 scorers is so HE OR TMAC WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE GREAT GAMES ALL THE TIME. we didn't get artest just for his defense, we got him so we would have someone who could score as well. don't comment on my thread if you are going to say anything but, amen, hallelujah or by God you are right!...and i'm not kidding...
I must agree with this statement "I would trade ANYONE if it made the team better". Screw 2010 this team and organization is suppose to be on WIN now mentality and if a big trade will do just that then do it. The 19th 3 weeks away let see how the organization is after that day.
I was impressed with T-mac. He was very active on offense. I don't he was as bad as some people make him out to be. He took good shots tonight.
yeah I agree , i hope these two day off, will help the whole team to get it together and do what ever they need to win again.
The stats don't say everything. I was responding to someone making an argument based on the stats. Per minute, it rates Yao at about 16.5 per 36 minutes, and it rates McGrady at about 12.9 per 36 minutes. I don't interpret that as "almost" the same. And the stats tend to be a better indicator of effectiveness on the offensive end than defensive end. Yao has been, unquestionably, far more valuable on the defensive end than McGrady. The offense is a little closer, but Yao has still performed much better in general. Generally speaking, that's what the box score stats seems to indicate.
I don't think you can judge any players on the stats, because basketball its a team sport and sometime what a players does on the court to help a team win doesn't show up on the stat sheet, for example Batman and hayes.
I'm including shots that were missed but resulted in trips to the line. Those are technically shot attempts, but they aren't tallied under FGA in the boxscore. If you ignore that, then you don't give adequate credit to the player's effectiveness at the free throw line.
remember it was mcgrady that closed out on andre notevengoingtoattempttospellhislastname's shot that gave us a chance to tie or win the game, i can't remember the ENTIRE game, but i only remember tmac taking one bad shot before that last one, and it was a heat check.
Okay, I see now. Thanks for clearing that up. I agree that you have to count the FGA that are not recorded in the boxscore.
And to clarify, 24 on 22 shots is equivalent to a 54.5 TS%, and 13 points on 13 shots is equivalent to a 50 TS%. League average this season is at 54 TS%.
when you don't know what you are talking, you better shut up. ra played yao 10 min in 3rd qt. yao went to the bench but had to come back in less than 2 min break because our huge lead in 3rd qt went to south w/o him on the court. he played into 4th qt another around 5 min and was very tired so ra took him out. at around 2 or 3 min left of the whole game, ra had to put yao back because we down 2 or 4 points. yao made a couple buckets but missed a ft. i don't know how you can blame yao. it should be on ra for the loss.
In other words T-Mac's below average shooting night was elevated to merely average because he managed to get to the free throw line.
How about the fact that before Yao returned to the game at the end, he was 1-3 from the field and had 4 turnovers in the second half? Or the numerous offensive rebounds we gave up because Yao couldn't secure it? He played terribly. Yao isn't the only reason we lost, we can all agree on that. And his presence can have a positive impact on the team, particularly on defense (this is very obvious whenever Landry subs in for him). But, he played very poorly by any reasonable standard for him, and we lost a very close game. He has take a good deal of the blame.
The team is broken. Yao's coming back from two days off and nobody feeds him the ball so he can get a rhythm going. T-Mac/Yao is a failure. Break it up.
Anybody with any basketball knowledge should know that this team was going to struggle when they got all there horses back. They've had a fragmented season due to tons of injuries especially to their main guys. If they can stay healthy, they will develop chemistry and become a very dominant team. I was very upbeat after the game mainly due to seeing T-Mac physically doing stuff that he used to do and not limping around. What ever he's doing with his trainer, he needs to keep it up. If they stay healthy I see the season turning around for them very shortly. Then it will be bandwagon city in the garm. P.S I do wish Morey would try and aquire an athletic shotblocker before the trade deadline. The layup drill for opposing teams when Yao is out of the game has gotten real old.
His shooting from the field was 47.5 eFG%. League average is 47.1 eFG%. So, more accurately, his above average shooting night remained above average after including his work at the free throw line. Hitting 3-pointers matter. Chauncey Billups is a career 41.5% shooter from the field, just based on FG%. Once you take into account 3-pointers, a more accurate picture emerges -- the guy is actually a very efficient scorer.
