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6-year old tries to drive to school

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by kaleidosky, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. Uprising

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    EDIT: DAMNIT...someone beat me lol. Hood rat things with my friends. :D

    OMG!!! that kid was in the news again

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  2. Lady_Di

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    How did he make it so far if he's not tall enough to reach the pedals or see correctly??

    I'm glad nothing happened to him.
     
  3. Asian Sensation

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    "His parents, Jacqulyn Deana Waltman, 26, and David Eugene Dodson, 40, are each charged with child endangerment, Wilkins said."

    Talk about score. I wonder if she's hot.
     
  4. kaleidosky

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    which also means he knocked her up when she was 19 and he was 33.. even more of a difference at that age, ha
     
  5. cwebbster

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    Hmmm.....I wonder what.....eh nevermind
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    I have a 4 year-old and a 19-month old, and I let the older one borrow the car all the time.

    How times have changed. When I was 6, I walked to school by myself every day. Now, you have to wait at the bus-stop with your kids?

    Actually, I have a story a little like this one. When I was 4, I was in the bathroom when my brother's school called to ask my mother to take my older brother home (he was sick or something). Since I was in the bathroom, my mother told me she'd be right back (horrible mother, no doubt). But, I wanted to go, so when I got out, my dog and I ran/walked all the way to the school. By the time I got there my mother had already left. So, I sat in the parking lot and waited. My mother, of course, was scared when she got home. Our neighbors told her they saw me walking, so she tracked me down to the school.

    Anyway, my opinion on it is this -- kids do stupid things sometimes and endanger themselves. It'd be nice if they stayed safe, but you can't hold their hands their whole lives. Six is old enough for some independence and self-sufficiency. A six-year old should be able to get himself to school in the morning. So, he used poor judgement one day; that alone doesn't indicate poor parenting or lack of sufficient supervision. If it wasn't this, the kid would have gotten hit in the eye playing swords, or hit a friend throwing arrows at each other, or gotten hit in the ear by a hand-held roman candle, or exploded a firecracker in his hand, or tried to hold the blades of an electric blender still, or taken a fall trying to jump his bike off a massive ramp. Boys will find a way to hurt themselves doing something stupid. I think this falls into that category.
     
  7. Kyakko

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    me too. back in the mid 80's you see kid's walking to school bye themselves all the time. i'm not sure if it's a good idea these days though.
     
  8. Rashmon

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    But you give him permission. You know when he borrows the car.

    There is a tremendous difference between a kid getting poked in the eye while playing swords, and the level of non-supervision that permits him to get your keys and drive a car.

    If you're ok with it, I have no problem. We can agree to disagree.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    I doubt the level of danger has changed. We had cars back then, and kidnappers and child-rapists. We had drug-pushers and muggers. Maybe more then than now. But, awareness is much higher now. The real danger you face now a great deal more than you did back then is the danger that people will call you a bad parent and arrest you for child endangerment. And, I won't dispute that we're safer for it. But, I don't know if the incremental benefit was worth the incremental cost.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    I see the sense of community has gone down. There were kids everywhere outside when I was growing up. Older kids would let little kids know if they were doing something they weren't suppose to be doing. There would be adults outside that we knew. So while the negatives may be the same, the positive protective people are not.
     
  11. kaleidosky

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    That was the response I was gonna go with. Maybe the negatives are the same or might have even lessened.. but when you weigh in the fact that kids are much more exposed and alone, the danger factor is much higher now.

    It's like a single woman going to her car in a mall parking garage over the Xmas holidays.. versus the middle of September, Wednesday at 8:30 pm. Strength in numbers, if not even people you actually know.
     
  12. Kyakko

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    yea...

    off the subject. i was talking to my boss about this, but i think my generation was the last of when a kid was really a kid. now, they're miniature teenagers. i mean i see kids in Nikes and clean clothes and the mouth on some of them.

    i feel like clint eastwood in grand turino. :(
     
  13. anesticle

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    Well at least he did not run any red lights and obeyed the speed limit, amirite coogs? :D
     
  14. Yonkers

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    Growing up I got myself ready in the morning. Even ironed my clothes. I got a spot on my leg that hair won't grow because the iron fell over and burnt me one morning. When I was 7 and got chicken pox I stayed home by myself for a week and ate left overs or made grilled cheese sandwiches.
    Latch key kid = child abuse. lol
    Anyway, I would never let my kid do any of what I did. In some ways they're much more advanced than we were. In some other ways they're very sheltered.
     
  15. david_rocket

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    I still wonder, how he could see the road, and reach the pedals?

    And if I were the parents, I wouldnt want to leave my 6 years old, alone in the streets, when someone can pass and take him very easy.
     
  16. rpr52121

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    1. Little kids do dumb things because they don't completely understand all the consequences.

    2. Parents often leave their kids at a busstop without making sure they got on the bus.

    3. You have a six year old saying he "learned to play by playing GTA/Mud whatever." A 6 YO, and you automatically take that as doctrine that his parents bought that for him and let him play it all the time. Little kids often try to do what their parents or siblings are doing. He could have played those games once or twice at some friends house, and saying he learned to drive by playing those because he thinks that is learning to drive. Yes he is smart enough to know where the keys are and drive to school, but wouldn't the really smart kid know that he would get in trouble for taking the car and ask him mom to take him or simply walk to school.

    The kid has to take some of the blame.

    Charging the parents with child endangerment is ridiculous. Charging them with negligence though could be justified, but you could probably charge a mom/dad who lost their kid at a supermarket or outdoor event or who accidently left them at supermarket or something with negligence.

    Basically we don't know the whole story, so stop judging the parents when you don't know what exactly happened.
     
  17. Rashmon

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    Wrong. The negligence was not properly supervising the child in the first place, the child endangerment charge, is due to the fact that their negligence put the child (and others) in imminent danger.

    Negligence does not always lead to endangerment. In this case it surely does.

    He was driving a car, not making his own grilled cheese sandwich.
     

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