1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

6 shots for Yao? 6?! REALLY!?!?!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by GoRoxFromDC, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. Herb

    Herb Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    0
    Who cares how much a player is paid? You play to win. The offense was fine last game. Yes, it could be better but it was more than decent. A few hiccups were magnified only because the Rockets couldn't stop Roy or Aldridge.
     
  2. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    because if you're putting together a team in a league with a salary cap, it turns out that his salary is kinda important.

    my concern isn't the offense the last game. looking at a one-game sample size to tell me how this offense will perform when yao is only in the flow of the offense enough to manage 6 shots, probably isn't sufficient.

    and i'll note, we still lost. yes i know there are lots of reasons for that.
     
  3. Herb

    Herb Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    0
    Your concern is about the offense even though it was fine. The Blazers were committed to stopping Yao whatever way possible and they did that. The Rockets took advantage of that by penetrating and drawing fouls on their big men. I agree, Yao does need more shots but I don't think he going to get many opportunities in the post if the Blazers defend him the way they did in game 2.
     
  4. real_egal

    real_egal Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2003
    Messages:
    4,430
    Likes Received:
    247
    LOL. Throwing out a ridiculously false premise doesn't prove my logic is wrong. The key word is logic. You pretend other teams want to get Yao zero touches with all five players. Let's forget about the illegal defense for a second, still, no team wants to use 5 players to get Yao zero touch. So your analogy failed.

    Good that you are realizing it's the cost we are talking about here. I thought we got lengthy analysis on how 50% shooting couldn't make them pay enough "cost" to win the game, is evidence enough that approach failed. 2 big post defenders is some heavy cost, but those 2 are no offensive forces, so Blazers offensive output isn't impacted, while Yao is out most efficient offensive weapon. That cost/reward ratio isn't attracting enough, the result also proved. If they used Aldridge to double early on, or if we could foul out Oden earlier, force Aldridge to double, then the output might be totally different.

    It's not about cliche - to find open man. It's about risk/reward or cost/return analysis.

    By the way, I did say Yao didn't play well in Utah series, still managed 25/10 with 44% shooting. That's how efficient Yao is. That's how ridiculous to claim you should go to Bowen or Hayes if they are open, move away from Yao if he's guarded tight.
     
  5. redao

    redao Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    3,819
    Likes Received:
    58
    first, "lol" only makes you look classless before you can put any arguments out.

    you said you wont do what your opponents wanted you do.<---this logic is wrong because you did not factor in the cost.

    "Yao is our most efficient weapon"<----another wrong statement. Yao is not efficient at all when he is fronted, double teamed or getting tired.

    44% is an insult to "efficient". fixed it for you---> "that's how inefficient Yao was"
     
  6. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    I'm probably in a better position to state what my concern is than you are.

    My concern goes beyond that one game. It's been a concern for me for quite a while.
     
  7. BucMan55

    BucMan55 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    4,736
    Likes Received:
    62

    Quoted again for M**********NG truth!
     
  8. marks0223

    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Messages:
    11,872
    Likes Received:
    17,419
    How about another Rockets player fronts Yao. ;) That will confuse the crap out of Portland. Toss the ball in as the other Rockets player cuts away.
     
  9. Bleeding Red

    Bleeding Red Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2007
    Messages:
    1,121
    Likes Received:
    12
    " It’s been hard work, and a bit of a wrestling match, but Joel Przybilla (left) and the Blazers are adjusting defensively against Houston’s 7-6 Yao Ming"
    I thought this was a basketball game :confused:

    [​IMG]
     
  10. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,791
    Likes Received:
    771
    Guess who is leading orlando cause howard is being doubled? A rookie courtney lee. I wonder how many thread are in their garm talking about the 6 shots howard got.
     
  11. Benny

    Benny Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2009
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    0
    i hope game 3 is different
     
  12. hakusan

    hakusan New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    can we use this????[​IMG]
     
  13. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    easily the best first post ever, hakusan.
     
  14. foofo

    foofo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    17
    The playoff series is definetely on Yao now!
    If he (or his teamates, coach?) can sort out either the FRONTING problem or the PICK&ROLL defense, we could easily end up with a 4-1 or 4-2 win!
     
  15. foofo

    foofo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    17

    Can't agree more.
    That's why I thought the rockets didn't share the ball well.
    AB, Artest and Wafer are sometime over-confident with their offensive skills.
    I'v seen quit a lot of times that they didn't even pass the ball after a pick&roll, which may give scola or landary wide open shot opportunities.
     
  16. aws311

    aws311 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    0
    nope.
     
  17. StevieCrossover

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2007
    Messages:
    900
    Likes Received:
    253

    This is a game of Mercy. looks like Yao ming got Indian rope burned.
     
  18. 2rings

    2rings Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2007
    Messages:
    584
    Likes Received:
    3
    Not an apples to apples comparison. Its very difficult to double and deny on the perimeter. Opens up too many things in the lane.
     
  19. GoRoxFromDC

    GoRoxFromDC Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2008
    Messages:
    120
    Likes Received:
    0
    4317 Y.Ming points over 20½ -115
    9:35PM (EST) 4318 Y.Ming points under 20½ -115
     
  20. RockieGuy09

    RockieGuy09 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2009
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    1
    If Yao could always make the 180 turn this fast, fronting would not be that detrimental to us. When you are being fronted, the simple logic is that if you spin 180 to the opposite direction, the one who was fronting you 1 second ago would be behind you now. But of course we also need our perimeter players to be able to swing the ball to the other side at the right timing. Workable, but easier said than done.
     

Share This Page