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Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by bread and budin, Oct 18, 2011.

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  1. ascaptjack

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    jadande J.A. Adande
    FYI, if you saw the ratio of NBA lockout tweets vs. World Series tweets coming thru my timeline you'd stop that "no1 cares about NBA" junk

    WallaceHeatNBA Michael Wallace
    Union says unless system is right no way they're coming off 53pct share. Owners say no need to talk if no 50-50. Both sides firmly dug in.

    coachthorpe david b. thorpe
    Hard to imagine citizen's ever vote to fund an NBA arena again. Players and owners will suffer for years. The NBA as a whole, too.

    tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
    "Trust my gut" joins a list of memorable quotes from Dan Gilbert. My favorite is ...

    tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
    "When it comes to LeBron, the 'P' in the MVP award should also stand for 'person.'"- Dan Gilbert, pre-Decision

    coachthorpe david b. thorpe
    I had to laugh at the idea that the owners want the NHL. Cause that's exactly what they might get...ratings wise.

    tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
    Red herring. RT @ryenarussillo This talk about a new deal helping competitive balance, maybe? Seems more like an attempt to get fan support.

    AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
    The NBPA isn't happy with Spurs' owner Peter Holt. Source says he's slowing talks and told the players, "You haven't felt enough pain yet."

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    It's a clown suit parade, folks. Someone will be called to account for this.
     
  2. ascaptjack

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    StephenCurry30 Stephen Curry by sam_amick
    Because of greedy owners. We r truly blessed to make what we make to do what we do. Why would we GIVE UP game checks just to get more
     
  3. ascaptjack

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    ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
    This is (another) sad, sad day for the NBA. I honestly have no idea where the two sides go from here.
     
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    I don't have any real knowledge of the negotiation points, but I have to believe that if it has gotten to this point, then I just can't see that the owners are posturing. I think that the players just can't except the fact that the nba can't sustain itself under the current rules.

    The players better wise up soon, because I just don't see that the owners are going to cave. If they haven't done it yet they aren't going to do it now.
     
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    I don’t get it. Earlier today in the BOG meeting, the owners agreed on a revenue sharing plan where small market teams would get an additional $15M per season from revenue sharing. Seems like a pretty nice chunk of extra income.

    But then the names Hunter was saying were being most difficult in the negotiations were Holt, Gilbert, Sarver... I bet the big markets owners and moderates would have agreed to that 50-53% band that the Union offered, but those guys just wouldn’t have it.

    If Holt really said that, they're not trying to get a fair deal -- they're trying to crush the union.
     
  6. ascaptjack

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    coachthorpe david b. thorpe
    Ironic that the NBA's light is flickering just as the game is exploding globally.
     
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    A total lack of revenue sharing is what is killing small market teams not player salary.
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I guess Stephen doesn't understand math. You are trying to get more, you're trying not to give up more than you want. Wait for empty mailbox bro.
     
  9. ascaptjack

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    I would just like to say Dan Gilbert is an idiotic troll.
     
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    Right now the players U is saying that they would agree to the 50% if they worked out the particulars of the system first, but the owners said that the 50% agreement was a prerequisite to any discussion of those types of details.

    So, as you can see, not a lot of "caving" is necessary. Just 2 sides acting r****ded.
     
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    You really think NBA players know math? More than half of them probably paid off someone to take their tests for them or not show up to class even.

    I seriously doubt a guy like LeBron even knows basic algebraic equations.
     
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    Ha, I can safely say that most fans think players would be lucky if they made 50,000 dollars a year instead of a game.
     
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    StephenCurry30 Stephen Curry by SpearsNBAYahoo
    If you follow it closely, we r the only side giving concessions. Constant concessions to bridge the "gap". All good. Sry to fans. Love yall
     
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    I think it'd be reasonable for the average NBA player to, throughout their career, make enough money to last them the rest of their life after their career is done. Of course, that amount of money is substantially lower than the current amount they make. They should also require money-management classes for players.
     
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    I don't believe what you just said there. Sorry. I've heard nothing that suggests that the Union would accept a 50-50 split.

    All I'm saying is that this negotiation is serious for a reason, and I don't believe it is about divvying up the billions in profits.

    There is a real sea change happening here.
     
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    Not me, I know damn well if I was one of 350 irreplaceable employees in a company that made billions annually, I'd damn well better be getting paid more than 50k a year. lol
     
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    Seems like the players were ready to accept a 50/50 split and the owners were ready to get a deal done but something happened at the BOG meeting to change some of the owners opinions. A few ******* band of owners felt like they needed to bring the union to their knees and put everything back to ground zero.
     
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    I also read somewhere that Hunter and the union were considering 50-50 split but wanted to know the particulars beforehand. The owners made a take it or leave it offer and the union didn't.
     
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    I'm just now beginning to feel like the entire season is in jeopardy. Players may as well give in now, but they won't. The acrimony between the sides ensures nothing positive will happen soon.

    After all of this is finished, the owners BETTER have enough revenue sharing and get a hard enough cap to give all teams a legit chance to compete.
     
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    Dude, I'm just quoting what Billy Hunter just mentioned a million times in the press conference. They also want to do a "band" where the players would agree to a rolling 50-53% split, dependent on the economics of that particular year. This is what the PU is putting out there. If true, it's dumb that there is still no deal in place.
     

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