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[538] Harden more impressive than Wilt

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. BigM

    BigM Member

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    You can’t be that smart and come up with an opinion like that. Either that or he’s just a hater.
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I think he is a hater in that respect.
     
  3. Remlap

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    Of course, it helps when you are 7'1" with a 7'8" wingspan
    playing against a bunch of guys who are 6'5" or less :D

    [​IMG]
     
  4. coyotetex

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    I wasn’t trying to say what Harden would have scored if he played during the same year. I am simply showing what Harden might be expected to score now if he took the same number of shots as other all time PPG leaders took back in their time.

    I don’t think having the three point line would have improved Wilts numbers. He averaged 40 - 50 because of his insane shot volume, not his efficiency. Every player on the list would have outscored Wilt if they took as many shots as he did.

    Maybe Barry would have been significantly better with the 3 pointer, but Jordan (starting in 88) and Kobe had three pointers available to them and shot lower volume and lower percentage than Harden - so even if they shot the same volume as Harden does - Harden would still out perform them.
     
  5. tinman

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    No.

    Wilt wouldn't have never wasted his time with Khloe
    He had higher standards
     
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  6. Hard_foul

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    The number 50.4 tells it all. If you’re able to average that many points a game there obviously isn’t very much competition. Harden’s streak is much more remarkable and there isn’t even an argument.
     
  7. deshen

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    Not sure where you guys can conclude like this. Wilt lead the league 9 of his 14 seasons in FG%. if career 54% FG is not efficiency, what is?
     
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  8. deshen

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    lol, I think 20k would be a record too high to reach by anyone else.
     
  9. RocketsFido

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    believe it or not, he's not going to win MVP this year unless by some miracle we secure the 3rd seed while OKC falls below us.

    All the media talks are already shifting to PG and Giannis over Harden and with CP3 back, I don't think Harden will be as aggressive scoring (even though he should be more often)
     
  10. coyotetex

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    I can conclude it because it's true. If Harden took the same number of shots that Wilt did in his 50 PPG season, Harden would score nearly 60 PPG. I'm not saying Wilt is inefficient, I'm saying he scored 50 because he took 39.4 (!!!) shots per game.

    When Harden took 38 shots against the Knicks he scored 61 points which is exactly what his PPG stats predict. To put this in context, in 1962, Chamberlain AVERAGED the same number of shots per game that Harden took against the Knicks in one of the single highest shot totals of his career.

    Harden scores 20% more points on the same number of shots as Chamberlain. That's a huge difference.
     
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  11. sirbaihu

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    I can't stand it when people say "If X took all those shots. . . ."
    OK, "If Curry took all those shots--he would never take that many shots, coz Curry is built like Taylor Swift. He would be injured right now."
     
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  12. deshen

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    Apparently, you used false data. Let's follow your approach and see if Harden is ranked #1 this season.

    name Points FGA pts/fga
    Rudy Gobert 15.2 8.6 1.767
    Deandre Jordan 11.0 6.4 1.719
    Boban Marjanovic 6.7 3.9 1.718
    Richaun Holmes 8.2 4.9 1.673
    Dwight Howard 12.8 7.7 1.662
    Miles Plumlee 4.4 2.7 1.630
    Mitchell Robeinson 6 3.7 1.622
    Dwight Powell 8.7 5.4 1.611
    Giannis Antetokounmpo 27.1 17.2 1.576
    Ed Davis 5.9 3.8 1.553
    Domantas Sabonis 14.1 9.1 1.549
    Montrezl harrell 15.8 10.2 1.549
    Thomas Bryand 9.6 6.2 1.548
    Daniel Theis 6.8 4.5 1.511
    James Harden 36.5 24.2 1.508

    do you believe all those players are better than Wilt and everyone else on this list is better than Harden?
     
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  13. coyotetex

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    Why don’t we throw in players who played one minute all season, scored 6 points and have an average points per shot of 3.0 since the concept of scoring efficiency at volume is apparently beyond you.
     
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  14. deshen

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    "If Harden took the same number of shots that Wilt did in his 50 PPG season, Harden would score nearly 60 PPG"
    that was your quote.
    exclude players with less than 10 points, Harden is ranked #7 this season so far. I guess no more all time talk.
     
  15. coyotetex

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    If you think anyone on that list can defeat double teams and score over 30 points a game against defenses that are 100% focused on stopping them then you are a world class moron.

    You can’t possibly be that stupid so clearly you are a troll who is so threatened by Harden’s dominance that you registered for a CF account to desperately try (and fail) to undermine Hardens narrative as an all time great.

    You smell like a Kobe fanboy. You have that stink of desperation on you that accompanies Bryant and his fading legacy wherever he goes...
     
  16. deshen

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    Is this your best response? lmao. boy, you have long way to go.
     

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