4 pounds of Anthrax

Max Blumenthal did a good piece on Hagee's organization

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Okay, cool. I take back whatever nice things I said before. Here you go again...

It's so weird how you pick certain fringe types that no one outside your email list has ever heard of or cares about to freak out on but you're willing to "be fair" to the most heinous among us.

Yes, Hagee has a large following. We live in a sick world. There are always people ready to follow the hate.

 

1. Nowhere near so hot-headed that I'd suggest God punished "sin" with torture and murder.

2. I didn't watch the video but I do find it amazing how willing you are to be "fair" to Christian hate freaks while freaking out over Muslim ones.

3. Sure, okay. He probably thinks it's loving to wipe out a bunch of blacks and gays as long as it's a Christian God doing it.

I don't refuse to discuss it any further, but I doubt I'd find any more interest in it.

 

You have been hostile. I provide a simple analogy to provide context for this fool as a fringe idiot that doesn't represent mainstreem thought and you get hostle and demand an apology.

The derailment here is all yours. If you disagreed with my analogy you could have just let it pass and John Hagee wouldn't have been mentioned again. I sincerely hope you don't have the wild mood swings that your posts appear to show.

 

And thereby indicating that the people in NOLA got what they deserved. And this is a guy you want to be "fair" to. Sick.

 

Your bizare honor/apology fetish was illustrated nicely by batman.

 

I'm not doing this weird Nugentian back and forth with you again. It's enough for me to hear that you believe Hagee merits "fairness." Again, sick. And telling.

 

So when an extremist Muslim Mullah preaches messages that are hateful towards the U.S. and the west you'll defend the too strong comparisons between them and real murderers?

 

If not extending fairness and understanding to a scumbag like Hagee is "Batman's Way," sure. I actually think it's the way of all people who aren't totally insane. But you've always been extremely tolerant (a 'moderate' as I said earlier) when it comes to hateful nutjobs.

You're defending a guy who said that the victims of Katrina got what they deserved. You're defending a guy that said that Katrina was God's will.

Do you have any idea how callous and vile that makes you seem?

 

Giddy,

This is one argument where Batman has you pegged. You posted a hateful diatribe by a Muslim which was subsequently compared to the hateful speech by a Christian. The comparison is very valid. Both people have engaged in hateful rhetoric and neither represents the views of the vast majority of the followers of either faith.

It is easy to cherry pick hateful speech by just about any group, but there are idiots of just about every faith and these comments don't prove anything about the Muslim world any more than the comments of Hagee or David Duke represent the views of the Christian world.

 

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Terry Gross: If you use the Bible as the basis for policy, is there any room for compromise? And if you use the bible as the basis for policy, should Muslims use the Koran as the basis for their policy, and then again, what possible basis is there for compromise at that point?

John Hagee: There is really no room for compromise between radical Islam --

Terry Gross: I'm not talking about radical Islam. I'm just talking about Islam in general.

John Hagee: Well Islam in general -- those who live by the Koran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.

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“Right now America is at a crossroads,” said Hagee, who heads Christians United For Israel. “The Third World War has begun.”

“Ladies and gentlemen, America is at war with radical Islam,” Hagee said. “Jihad has come to America. If we lose the war to Islamic fascism, it will change the world as we know it.”

“We as a nation are at war with a determined enemy. It is time for America to realize that we must win this war at all costs.”

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So I've decided to humor you. On the first page I said:

Since you seem to not challenge the veracity of what he said about God killing people in New Orleans, I have now proved to you that he said what he said. "IF" no longer is an operative word.

In following your proud tradition, I think you owe me an apology giddyup. I will spend the next 20 pages whining about how you've wronged me, acting hurt, and declaring that I'm just being sincere.

 

I can see why demagogues like Hagee continue to persist in America. Too many defensive Christians circling the wagons around him in a knee jerk fashion to prevent his "persecution".

Another reason why American Christianity is our cultural sick man.

 

Exactly. You'd like to think good Christians would denounce the sick, hateful, evil ones just like you'd like to think good Muslims would denounce the sick, hateful and evil among them.

But no. At least not giddyup. He wants to be "fair" to him.