First of all, he WAS 21 this season, so he wasn't "under 21" Secondly, are we really going to glorify scoring 22 points on 18 shot attempts and 6 FT attempts? If you keep chucking things in the general direction of the rim, eventually some are going to go in on accident.... I really thought the days of romanticizing low efficiency chuckers was over.
That’s a list of guys who started the season under 21. Sorry the facts hurt your feelings. Jalen’s TS% was near Ja’s and around average for guards his age. His ability to score at his age is rare, and history shows it. Period.
By the way, you know your position is weak when you’re literally disputing an objective chart from StatMuse.
LOL, it didn't "hurt my feelings", it made me laugh at you for glorifying inefficient chucking. The ability to score 20 points on 18 shot attempts and 6 FT attempts isn't "rare" at all. The thing that is "rare" is allowing someone that inefficient to take that many shots. It only makes sense when a team is tanking. In fact, there were only 20 players in the league who shot as much per game as Jalen Green, literally all of them had 20+ points. Hell there was only 2 players in the entire league who took at least 16 shots per game that didn't score 20 points per game and both of them averaged 19. There's probably 8-10 players on every team that would score 20 points if they were allowed to shoot that much....but by all means, be easily impressed.
Did you read what you are responding to? It's super rare for teams to completely sabotage themselves by letting players that inefficient chuck that many shots per game....so no, you won't find many that have done it because not many teams want to sabotage themselves like that. Just look at the entire league, if you take even 15 shots per game, we're talking about at least 19 points per game. Hell Jokic scored over 24 points per game on less than 15 shots per game. Butler scored 23 on 14 Glorify whatever you want, but Jalen's chucking has only led to being one of the worst teams in the league two years in a row. At some point the Rockets will try to win again, which means an end to the mindless chucking one way or the other.
I know, I know, the cult doesn't like rational takes when it comes to discussing your deity. You'll just have to learn to cope my guy.
You aren’t rational about Green. You’re the definition of irrational, spouting the same couple points without context, contemplation, or nuance.
Just for fun, I looked up the last 40 years of Rockets history looking for all the times players took at least 16 shots per game WITHOUT scoring at least 20 points per game. Here's the list Aaron Brooks 2009-2010 16.2 shots 19.6 points per game....it was his last ever season as a starter and he was in China 2 years later Ralph Sampson 1985-1986 16.2 shots 18.9 points per game, very different, a lot less efficient era. End of list.
The funny part is I didn't even click "show ignored content" and still knew right away with Houston77 replies that Bobby has entered the building.
You're really not getting it. The fact he is doing this his 1st 2 years in the NBA and under one of the worst head coaches in the history of the NBA is at least slightly impressive.
When Steve Francis scored 21.6 points on 17.7 shots per game, was that him showing that he was a "special scorer"? That performance led to the Rockets being so bad they were able to draft Yao Ming. Jalen Green just did the modern day version of it.....only we didn't win the lottery.
It's because the team had such a bad head coach that he was even allowed to shoot that much. Any competent coach would have stopped that from happening.
Lots of bad teams end up with high draft picks and put the ball into the hands of young scorers...and yet I don't see a Glenn Robinson or Michael Beasley on @Houston77 's list. If applying basic logic to a list of all time NBA greats of which Jalen also appears on the list makes us a 'cult', what does it make you sitting there wearing a tin foil hat? Everyone agrees low efficiency scorers are not the gold standard, but almost every young player STARTS as an inefficient version of their older self. Scoring efficiency is not a trademark of young 'one day league leading scorers'. Maybe some players were more efficient at that stage in their career(Tmac for one on much lwoer volume because he was a role player early in his career) - but of the guys who were handed the ball and said - "you are our offense now - enjoy the double and triple teams!", Jalen compares very favorably. The all time NBA leader in scoring(aka the GOAT) started his career at 41% from the field and 29% from three....and that's one of the smartest players of all time but by your measure he would have been a pretty trashy young player. My point is, if you are going to draw a line as your measure for judging worth of a player like Jalen, make sure you apply that across the board historically and that there is some reasonable measure of people who have achieved better at the same context of their career...otherwise it just look like your line is "whatever Jalen is not" or that it's somehow everyone's else's responsibility here to make you see really basic context because you are too lazy to think about it....which just makes people want to hit the mute button on you
If Hornets select Miller.... Portland shops #3. HOU IN - #3, Scoot Henderson HOU OUT - #4, #20, Porter, Martin POR IN - Porter, Bridges, #20 POR OUT - #3, Simons BKN IN - Martin, Simons, #4 BKN OUT - Bridges Henderson, Green, Eason, Smith, Sengun Schroder, Christopher, Tate, Garuba, Plumlee
Interesting people you picked.... Michael Beasley would have been on the list, but his coach didn't give him the Jalen Green treatment, while he averaged over 20 points on over 17 shot attempts per 36, he wasn't allowed to play that much as a rookie.... the sole reason why there's not A LOT more people on that list. Almost no one gets the Jalen Green treatment because coaches don't often want to get fired. As to Glenn Robinson, he'd have been on that list too, but his rookie season he was already over 21 when he averaged over 20 points per game.
I think BTG formulated it radically but he is right that if a better player comes to Houston, both of KPJ and Green's FG Attempts are going down. Very natural. They survive by getting better and more efficient, scoring in multiple ways and adding to their bag. I also think Udoka won't be preaching what Silas did and the overall scoring will be less, efficient and the Defense would get better. Silas was all about get out there, and chuck when you are halfway open.
