3rd Attempt: GOP/Trump Repeal & Replace ACA and Trump lie about pre-exist coverage

I couldn't agree more. What a bunch of sanctimonious garbage. He lectures the Senate about the appropriate way to conduct Congress and then votes to pass through a bill WITHOUT an actual bill.

This is 100% designed as a bluff and to risk the insurance market as a whole over partisan political stances on policy that is designed to Reverse Robin Hood. They think it will force Democrats and the American people to say "oh no... Obamacare failed... let's help Republicans give tax breaks to millionaires".

The worst thing about Republicans is they know how stupid their voter base is and they live for one thing only... pissing in the face of Democrats and poor people.

I think Democrats call their bluff and let the Republicans sit in their own stool. Then in 4 years get ready for single payer.

F John McCain and his fake "Maverick" side show. This is the guy who picked Sarah Palin to be his running mate by the way. He's worse than the guys who just own being an ******* like Ted Cruz.

 

7 years of b****ing about Obamacare and now they're going throw a bunch of crap to the wall over a few days and see what sticks. Welcome to America.

 

So the first vote just happened. This one was McConnell's original bill but it had a 60 vote threshold because some pieces didn't comply with the reconciliation requirements.

Failed 43-57. The interesting thing is the Republicans that voted against it weren't the usual suspects (well some were but some weren't). Collins, Murkowski, Heller and Paul voted No to kill the thing but in addition Corker, Cotton, Graham, Lee and Moran also voted No.

Of course, John McCain who in his speech said he would vote no on the Republican bill after voting yes to proceed, voted Yes on this garbage bill. As did the supposed defenders of Medicaid, Rob Portman and Shelley Moore Capito.

 

Repeal only is dead, five senators on GOP side already voted no. So now it is just any senator can come up with an idea and see if enough people would support it, this should be fun.

Now seven senators including McCain voted no.

 

Is that "Repeal and Delay"?

Or is that what they are referring to as a "Skinny Repeal"?

I know there was two votes today on two different repeals.

(Also I'm assuming this barrage of repeals today is just a scam to confuse the American people and jam something through unnoticed because I cannot for whatever reason keep up with this bill, and I consider myself at least surface level informed on healthcare)

 

This is just the repeal, next up is the skinny repeal where they get rid of individual mandate but keep all the benefits, basically forcing the insurance companies to leave the market.

 

I don't really think of it that way. I think he voted to start debate so that we can actually have some open debate. He obviously did not and does not expect the secret bill to go anywhere. I think it's dangerous to try to read the tea leaves of what Senator X does.

 

Oh Cool... MUCH better option lol.

 

It is interesting that senators including McCain voted yes last year for almost the exact same bill but now changed their votes when there is no Obama to veto the bill.

 

It is a cool option if insurance companies will stay on the market, does not help if non of them offer any plans.

 

I don't agree. It is hypocritical to complain about the lack of regular order and vote to start the 20 hour debate process before you have a bill. That isn't regular order. He is enabling this behavior with his vote. Moreover he's contributing to rapid collapse of expertise and Congressional resources that are used to even draft bills. That's why so many of our bills actually come from think tanks and special interests. The Republicans literally don't know how to write bills anymore. They gutted many of the staffers that historically wrote, modified and marked up bills. So as a result, you end up with closed door and rushed bills initiated by leadership. Leadership introduced bills were historically a rarely if ever used process. Now its a requirement because Senators like McCain have helped gut the process of regular order that he professes to support.

Regular order is going through the committee process to draft a bill, pass it through the relevant committees (the ACA for reference went through 3 different committee markup processes) and once you have a bill, then you bring it to the floor and have the vote to open debate. None of that happened with the Republican health care bill in either house. And to top it off, he flew into DC to make some big statement only to go along with leadership, then criticize leadership immediately afterwards, and then vote with leadership hours later. A real profile in courage if I ever saw one.

Also, in his same speech he claimed that he wouldnt vote for the McConnell bill as it was and then he went and voted for it the next day.

 

By the way, McCain wasn't always like this. In 2001, there was a grand total of 1 Republican who voted against the 2001 tax cuts. We can guess who that was. In that same vote eleven democrats voted for those tax cuts. McCain then voted against the 2003 tax cuts as well.

Also McCain was the guy who made campaign finance reform a central issue. The last piece of Campaign Finance Reform bears his name on it (McCain-Feingold). He also was a major player in the many attempts to pass comprehensive immigration reform including his role as a major sponsor of the 2007 bill. He was far more than the guy who only cared about indefinitely funding our military and fighting any war he could.

But this version of McCain is a travesty and that's just depressing to see.

Lastly, all of those bills went through regular order.

 

It probably infuriates Trump that we don't have a National Stadium where he can round up dissenters to have them shot.

 

mama there goes that half a gangster man. you can't be half a gangster, donald. Maybe that's why he talked about shooting a man and not losing voters?

In a way it truly is a drainage of the swamp. There are still some outstanding republicans left. Murkowski is my hero.

Jeb Bush,
"If your opponent does things that you, your head explodes on, if Barack Obama did something as it's related to Russia, you say 'this is outrageous,' all this stuff, then when your guy does the same thing, have the same passion to be critical," Bush said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...out-republicans-silent-on-trumps-russia-probe

 

Wish he was the president instead two scoops.

 

completely unethical and got to be illegal somehow

this Trump experiment keeps getting better... #MAGA

 

He is not MAGA but he is making America the laughing stock to the rest of the world.