3rd Attempt: GOP/Trump Repeal & Replace ACA and Trump lie about pre-exist coverage

Get rid of Medicare then. Makes no sense with your views.

 

Old people are so pro Trump yet they are the biggest leeches on society. They got their Medicare and SS so they are like **** everyone else.

 

I've never felt more free than when I'm looking into the dying eyes of a loved one, who has also been financially ruined for getting sick, and saying "But didn't it feel great, if only for a moment when you weren't catatonic, to be truly free?"

 

They also had affordable college tuition, better grade school funding and resources, higher wage growth during working years, and in some cases pensions that today's workers will never get but are stuck with the task of funding the pensions of boomers.

 

I'm with conservatives on this, that I don't like subsidies. But when you find that a significant portion of society can't afford a basic essential - food, energy, shelter, healthcare - without a subsidy, that means you effed up badly in your economic framework. People are paid too little and too much of the wealth created is going to capital. Subsidies are a band aid on this fundamental problem. I would love to have a health system without Medicaid, without subsidies, without tax credits. You just need to build an economy that pays everyone enough that they can buy it themselves. I'm with the conservatives who oppose expanding Medicaid to the working poor. Working poor is something that shouldn't exist in the first place.

 

Mike Lee and Jerry Moran just came out against this new version, so it's officially dead. Must suck for Cruz to not be able to bring along his biggest ally in Lee.

 

I support mandating coverage to everyone, not cherry picking the healthy for no or little coverage and necessitating the sick to pay incredible, unsustainable sums for insurance because you've decided that's only fair. The only transfer of wealth here is from the pockets of consumers into the hands of insurance and drug companies.

I have zero problem forcing insurance and drug companies to operate as non-profits or doing away with them altogether in favor of a Medicare for all with private insurance supplements so that few if any Americans die because they can't afford care. There should be no profit calculation in someone's health in most cases. Only end of life issues and incredibly rare diseases are things where the issue of money should be a topic.

Anyway, this insurance issue is really just a surface issue which is the costs of health care and drugs. It's outrageous.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/insur...ubled-since-obama-was-elected/article/2005073

In 2008, the year that Barack Obama was elected as president, the combined annual profits of America's ten largest health insurance companies were $8 billion. Under Obamacare, the ten largest health insurers' annual profits have risen to $15 billion. This is another fine example of the natural alliance between Big Government and Big Business, which flourishes at the expense of Main Street Americans.

Meanwhile, the real median American household income in November of 2008, when Election Day hit in the middle of the recession, was $57,899. By December of 2015—six and a half years after the recession ended—it had actually dropped, to $57,701. So far this year (as of August), it has dropped another $321, to $57,380.

So while health insurers' profits have risen more than 80 percent, Americans' incomes haven't even flatlined.

That's according to the Fortune 500, which shows the ten largest health insurers' profits as $8.3 billionin 2008 and $15.0 billion in 2015, and income figures from the U.S. Census Bureau, compiled by Sentier Research. These are interesting stats to reflect upon as Obamacare's open-enrollment period for 2017 begins in less than a week.

 

Another Trump failure. It's starting to get embarrassing for him.

 

I'm with conservatives on this. Let them all eat **** and die.

 

This is embarrassing at this point.

 

I understand what you are saying. That's one of several ideas that would perhaps work great in a perfect world.

Let me ask you how do you reconcile some of the places around the U.S. that tried to raise minimum wage in cities and are now being reversed?

I hope one day, most likely when we are all long gone that poor people will not really exist any longer. Decent food, medical care, and good schools.

 

Mike Lee is right, ACA is a massive wealth transfer from the middle class in the form of higher premiums.

If you even suggest insurers should be free to offer plans at cheaper premiums, everyone loses their minds.

http://theresurgent.com/senator-mike-lee-why-i-am-voting-no-on-bcra-2-0/

 

A full repeal requires 60 votes right?

 

He is now the biggest loser among all Presidents in the 20th and 21st centuries. Whoa!

 

The mad king himself speaks:


The GOP is pathetic right now. They don't need a single Democratic vote to pass any law, yet they cannot come together among themselves to do anything. If Republicans were truly introspective, they'd see that their current divisions stem from running dogmatic, absolutist Tea Party candidates who have railed against compromise in any form for years instead of trying to govern by consensus. When you elect nihilists you get nothing but chaos.

But, something tells me we'll see the anti-Democratic talking points roll out shortly after this tweetstorm finishes.

 

So far, Trump has no idea how to govern or care to govern, which perfectly represent today GOP. Win and Fail --- what you have when you have no new ideas, but you do anything to win.

 

And there you go. Trump continuing the GOP strategy to the extreme. Make sure ObamaCare fail, so that they can replace. The same old strategy for the last 8 years. And again, promise of a great healthcare plan as replacement. What make anyone think that the GOP and Trump have a clue what that is at this point? The sad thing is Trump actually at one point hinted at universal healthcare, but he let ideology of winning for my team and losing for the everyone else get in the way.