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3PM CST : Adelman Being Introduced

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by uchlha, May 23, 2007.

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  1. BigM

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    what does 85 - 90% mean? regardless of what percantage you think he was healthy, he wasn't himself. he may not have been physically in pain, but his conditioning and stamina was nowhere close to what it was before the injury. that's a fact.

    who was guarding has no relevance to what i'm saying.
     
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    Exactly. And, everyone forgets the mental aspect of coming back from a knee injury. The knee may be 100% healthy medically, but it doesn't ignore the fact that, subconciously, he was not ready to cut, plant, land and get hit all at full force mentally. I think, when Deron Williams slammed into his knee inthe 4th quarter of game 7, we saw him get over it a little bit once he realized he took that hit and was OK. He then proceeded to almost dominate the rest of the game and was the key component in that comeback to take the lead.
     
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    before the series, wasn't yao on a tear for a full 2-3 weeks? if he was not fully healthy, he woudl be vastly inconsistent before the playoffs since he was mentally out of it w/ the knee. but no, he was very consistent w/ his dominance.

    and he played 37 mins in the playoffs.

    the reason - jazz played more physical than most teams did in the reg. season and thus made it tough for yao to get good position. so lesson - yao needs to be a b**** and play even more physical in retaliation to get better position.
     
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    Even when Yao put up numbers at the end of the regular season, his reaction wasn't quite as quick (especially on defense)... in fact, Feigan commented on it several times during March and April... and brought it up again after the playoffs. I tend to agree with Feigan on this point.
     
  5. BigM

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    he put up 25 and 10 his last 10 games, exactly what he did in the playoffs. those numbers aren't even drastically different from the dominant pre-injury yao i'm talking about. but if you can't tell the difference between the two yao's by watching the way he played pre and post injury then nothing i say is really going to matter.
     
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    and I was getting hammered for saying Yao is being ineffective.
     
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    My impression is that after the talk with Adelman before JVG was thinking about the return, the owner alreday made the mind to get Adelman after the talk. This guy just knows the basketball. He told the owner how to use Yao and TMac differently, and how to play the ball both ends, and then Les said that I was 100% with you, you were my guy. I guess the Rox will pass the first round, if not, then I will start a fire Adelman thread.
     
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    I agree. As I did, Les bought the Adelman statement...we know it worked, he proved it and he will do it again...

    we don't have bad players, we just need to use them right
     
  9. Nick

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    First of all, when Adelman is referring to us not having bad players... he's talking solely about Yao and T-mac.... the only two guys he's really familiar with.

    When most of the people here are talking about "bad" players, they're referring to how overmatched our 3-8 are compared to the rest of the contenders.

    Adelman himself even said he hasn't gotten a chance to see any of these guys play (Novak, V-Span)... and we'll have to go from there. He also never has ruled out needing roster changes (cautioning on 790 yesterday that it took them some time to win in Sacramento because they didn't have the right players).

    Adelman is giddy about Yao and T-mac... and why shouldn't he be. I have no doubt he can diversify Yao's game, and take some of the burden off T-mac as being the only playmaker.

    However, there still needs to be other options in case of injuries to one of these guys, and in case the opposing team decides not to guard Hayes, Rafer, V-span, or Head due to their shooting inconsistencies.
     
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    I thought i heard several references to the rockets getting better players as well as evaluate what they have.

    The rockets have 2 really good players and a bunch of average guys behind them. I have no idea how someone can be so separated from reality to think that the rockets dont need significant upgrades if they tend to truly compete for a championship
     
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    You guys need to take Span and Novak out of the equation, because they did not play so do not count them in...

    what about Battier, what about Howard, Bonzi, they are clearly, at least to me good players but their were limited of what they actually can do....

    put in Head and Snyder, they surely are usable in some positions or plays...

    I complained so many times during the season, you can't force a player to do something he can't do! he might do it ok for few games but thats basically it

    first you are going to yank the love for the game out of them, second they will never reach their potential in the region they do best or they can do...
     
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    sorry I forgot to put in Rafer who was JVG's main test rabbit
     
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    Because it wouldn't be your post if you didn't mention find a way to take a jab at Van Gundy.
     
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    lol

    sorry, just...can't...keep my fing...ersss.....oofff....the key...board...J...V...G....sucks.....argh

    feel much better know :p
     
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    Since we have a new coach and the princeton system most likely will be implemented, if anyone is interested to understand how the system works. here a link that explains most, I have to say this is a system that is perfect for Rockets team, My comment about the Rockets they are 50 and above team, they may need one or two extra players, but this team is on the verge of becoming a force anyone who says otherwise does not understand basketbal, also anyone who says that they need to be dismantled,does not understand basketball, with the right schema they are there with the elite. strategy is what makes you win basktball, mental attidute is what makes you win basketball,



    http://espn.go.com/ncb/2003/0304/1517990.html
     
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    look, yao is never gonna be 100% as the playoffs near. no player is. he needs to understand that. he's prollie was 85-90% and that should be good enough against a flopping okur and 6-8 milsap. i never expect ANY player to be at full health when the playoffs roll around. so stop making that excuse.

    yao just didn't get good position. yao dominated the jazz in the 3rd meeting b/c it was a reg. season game. the jazz were def. more physical in the playoffs.
     
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    there's a difference between playing a full season and having little aches and pains by the time the playoffs come around vs. having major leg surgery and missing 30+ games. yao wasn't less effective because he was tired he was less effective because his pre-injury conditioning,timing, speed, everything wasn't back yet. i don't know why you keep saying 85-90%. that's just numbers you pull out your a$$.
     
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    obviously he's not so much hurt that he's already training w/ hakeem a few weeks after the playoffs.

    yao was playing against single coverage most of hte time v. okur AND milsap.

    and u want to know why i think yao was pretty healthy? i look at the games LEADING up to the playoffs. he was CONSISTENT as hell. i blame his play on the jazz's physicality, which was not seen in the reg. season

    the last 4 games before the playoffs
    31, 7 on 10-19 shooting
    27, 12 on 8-18 shooting
    30 on 11-16 shooting
    34 on 14-20 shooting

    so if he was "not" there, he would be inconsistent like he was in the playoffs. but he wasn't. he was GETTING BETTER AND BETTER going into the playoffs.

    again, jazz were more physical and yao wasn't ready for it.

    the same way tmac needs to shoot better and stop bricking like a fool
     

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