3 teens accused of setting boy on fire face attempted murder charges

At some point we must declare what was once a bit of man stew inside the youhoo of a ding dong that found a feline; likes playing with those things and expect them to understand why that is so interesting and it clearly can't be from birth. So... where?

If you hold the intent of an action constant and change only the "unseen" results from trivial to ultimate catastrophe does that alter responsibility to an individual or just the implications of what one is responsible for?

 

I agree you'd have to say at some point that you're an adult, (and this will sound hypocritical) but I think the best way is to have 2 years 'soft' prison. If a teenager between ages 15-18 commits a crime, then they go to a place where it's between a juvie and a full blown prison. This is hypocritical since you can extend my argument to say: One day you are 14, and you can't be charged, next day you are 15 and you're in soft prison. Unfortunately I cannot think of a better way. (and to be honest I didn't quite understand that simile in the first line )

I'm not 100% sure what the second question has to do with my post but I'll do my best to answer it. The difference is like the difference between attempted murder and first-degree murder, since you hold the intent the same but the consequence is clearly different. In today's society it seems that it does alter responsibility (actually, now that I come to think of it, is the sentence for attempted far less than actual murder?)

 

No doubt. I think they need to go to Federal Pound Them in the *ss Prison
but
I am growing more concerned that this isht seems more and more common
I mean . . A dude was beat to death in Chicago
and
There were plenty of folx around . . .and WATCHING

I think for the 1st time I may have to agree with Pouhe
We decide they are adults. . .only to punishment
but . . .we don't want them to be adults with adult priviledges before
You cannot have it both ways. . . they adults or the not

I know these lil demons do not need to be on the street.
QUESTION: Will they be in Juvie until they 18 then goto BIG PRISON?

Rocket River

 

Try them as juveniles. If the juvenile system cannot accomodate criminals like these, it should be fixed or scrapped. Attempted murder by children is common enough that we should have a regular system for dealing with it without having to resort to an exceptional status. This has nothing to do with these kids -- if the system can't handle these charges, it is broken.

 

Then why do they call them "Correctional" facilities?

 

Surely they know what they doing. I'm sure they have the ability to process and think through their actions. A kid, not so much, but a teen, definitely. It's one thing to steal, or to vandalize, it's another to torture another kid. Even bullying a kid, which can be psychologically damaging for the victim, can be tossed aside, but torturing another kid and almost killing him, they definitely thought that through.

 

Good riddance.

These SOB's deserve it.

 

Well, when you were 15, did you know what would happen if you soak someone in alcohol and set him on fire?

We've all been teens at one point in our lives. And I'm sure everyone has done some really stupid things at that age. But surely this is beyond "boys will be boys". I can almost understand it if drugs or alcohol are involved. But in this case, they just wanted to burn the kid. That's pretty inexplicable no matter how you spin it.

 

It doesn't matter if a kid kills a kid or an adult....

But as horrific as this crime is, trying children as adults is wrong. They aren't adults. There's a reason they have different laws for kids for many sorts of things. Why aren't they allowed to vote? Why can't they serve in the military? Why aren't they allowed to drive?

Because they lack comprehension.

It's considered against the Geneva Convention to sentence a kid to death for ANY crime...particularly for a non-homicide.

These kids did not commit homicide. Even still, they are not adults. Not even close. And as horrific as what they did is, they shouldn't make an exception and try them as adults. That's the benefit you get for being a kid.

 

While an average teenager may not have the level of comprehension as an adult, they're not kids either. They're only considered minors because of an arbitrary age/education standard set by society(which varies quite a bit from country to country).

And considering just how similar cases there are to this, shows that most teenagers do have the ability to know what you cannot do to another person.