3 christian aid workers who wanted to help flood victims killed by Islamists

do you agree that Christians are responsible for the Holocaust?

 

Why does everything have to be an god damn intellectual exercise with you guys?

And to answer your flippant question, no, at least not anybody that I would call a Christian.

 

I'm going to try and reduce the poo-flinging between us and ignore personal attacks back-and-forth and return to the criticism that you actually (finally) found valid.

I understand the curiosity. What you posted here does make sense, and I could logically see someone coming from such a critical angle.

My problem with you is that Muslim posters have continued to assure you that the terrorists invoking Islam for their unspeakable acts does not represent the faith accurately. They've continued to refute mistranslations from the Quran with more correct and plausible ones (considering they speak the language, I'm inclined to believe them). This thread is even further evidence of their attempt to get you to understand.

But you're like a broken record. Despite all these attempts (most of which I find very convincing), you continue to question and question and question. The violence of extremists will likely never stop as it never has throughout history (no matter the religion), so bringing up each unspeakable act and continuing your questioning despite answers already having been explained to you is what I take exception to. It makes me feel like you're unwilling to comprehend or listen to what they're saying which, in turn, leads me to believe you have a deep-seeded distrust of Muslims and the Islam faith in general.

Right or wrong, that's the impression your actions give me. I apologize for my ranting earlier and while I still believe most of what I wrote, most of it was in haste because I didn't think the declaration of me being a "numbskull" was warranted whatsoever (and the subsequent "prick"). My impression on you remains, however, and probably explained in a more succinct, non anger-based reason in this post.

And just for the record, I would probably be classified as agnostic. I don't respect Islam any more than I do Christianity, but I do respect both (and every other religion). I respect their use (bringing people together, pushing good values, etc.) and don't respect their maladies (hate, discrimination, killing, etc.). Personally, I feel their benefits do not outweigh their damage, but that's another argument for another day. That said, I still respect ALL religions despite not following any.

 

what's the issue? that all Islamic citizens of a whole country are going to systematically massacre 11 to 17 million Christians?

 

Skipping past the back and forth going on here, I think there is something noteworthy to say about this...

There was a thread a while back about why people are less likely to try and help Pakistan during this crisis. Well, it's because of things like this. Granted this was the actions of a minority of people. However, those actions are going to cause backlash against the majority of the population that really is suffering. That's truly the sad thing here. Who would want to risk putting their life to be a part of a noble cause to help others and then on top of that be targeted by terrorists?

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-already-knows-everything-he-needs-to-know-abou,17990/

Just joshing, but it's pretty funny.

 

Repped for this thread. Who knew it would end up actually serving a decent purpose.

If I can just add to what you said - there is definitely a very interesting cycle of (1) receiving good information followed by (2) posting a hateful thread. This is the principal reason why I don't bother with responding to some people anymore, because I'm aware that every day is like a new day for them. Anything anyone has ever tried to say has dissapeared into thin air. I sometimes wonder if their purpose of generating the dialogue is anything more than an attempt at picking out errors in grammar, vocabulary or interpretation in such a way that they can twist it into something negative.

Thanks.

 

it's not useless since the article speaks for itself. It's sad what happened to the aid workers.

Also I agree sometimes basso may get carried away but I find it very ironic that you don't see you act and do exactly the same thing except you are on the opposite end.
Basso may be the extreme right but you are just the extreme left

 

It's true. Anything that brings happiness to people is forbidden.

 

okay looks like people can have rational thoughts here.. i'll have to agree with you here...

 

Pretty much. No booze, no grinding at the club, no random sex.

I mean what kind of religion is it.

 

Yes but that's all negated by being able to have 4 wives RIGHT NOW (no consent from wifey required!) and 72 in heaven.

I mean, what's all the boozin and grindin and random sex for when you can get a SWEET package deal like that?

I'm more worried about the clown situation. I'm wondering if clowns have to be tried in court as homosexuals since they wear make up. Thank God there are no clowns in Iran.

 

This should be a sticky...


Fantastic post...

 

Around The World is currently resides in this world, unfortunately I can't say the same thing about TSchmal!

 

Come again? This time in French please.