https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/a-reply-to-the-federalist-on-impeachment-and-mob-rule/ The argument for acquittal is, in essence, the argument of nihilism and despair: that so long as a president has some popular base within his own party, it does not matter what he does, it does not matter what the standard for impeachment is, it does not even matter if his conduct in office is a direct, existential threat to the continuation of the American system bequeathed to us by the Founders.
"Can a former president be subject to an impeachment trial? The Constitution is murky." https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...27979e-60d9-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html
And what is your opinion or analysis of this piece? Is this an argument you agree with or not? What is your purpose of posting this? To address the author and not yourself as noted in the piece itself there is precedence for a Senate trial following impeachment for someone out of office. That Belknap was acquitted doesn't necessarily weaken the precedent as the trial did take place. To note we've never had a President convicted following impeachment that said I haven't heard anyone claim that is a precedent to say that impeachment itself is unconstitutional because there hasn't been a conviction. Also in this case Trump was actually impeached while still in office. While the Senate trial is happening after he has left office as noted in the piece the Constitution gives the Senate a lot of latitude to conduct their affairs. As noted previously there already a lot of conditions placed on who can run for office in the Constitution.
It's worse than that. The argument "Isn’t the better part of wisdom to trust the American public to deliver the verdict on Trump’s future electoral service?" as an argument against convicting Trump and denying him the ability to serve in future office is being put forward by many. That is a quote from the Lawfare article at Os Trigonum posted. Yet we saw just three weeks ago many of the same people making this argument do the exact opposite and tried to overturn the wisdom of the American public. In other words they trust the will of the American public unless it goes against their own partisan advantage.
here, you guys will like this one too. haven't had any Turley here for a while https://jonathanturley.org/2021/01/...he-constitutionality-of-a-second-trump-trial/ excerpt for the intellectually curious: As I have said repeatedly, this is not an easy issue and people of good-faith can disagree. more at the link
Yep.. It's probably a waste of time to expect more rather than just hiding behind someone else's opinion.
you kind of already have. let's review how this whole "conversation" started. The young wounded Marine vet starts off with an insult after not even bothering to read the post and then you chime in basically repeating the error and then even @B-Bob chimes in with something not completely helpful where exactly is the great conversation, debate, and discussion starting here?
Maybe we should do away with juror system and just have popular vote for all criminal cases. Vote here to convict of murder. Vote here to acquit. Nov 1st, 2022 is the voting day. If this is the system of gov Republican wants, let’s go all in. Get rid of the electoral college.
If you can't impeach a past President and he cannot be charged for crimes while he is in office, could the District Attorney file criminal charges for the same event? Otherwise, that would put the President above the law. (because I think that would be hilarious)
The argument that you can not commit a crime as president due to temporary immunity, then commit multiple crimes in order to retain the presidency after you lost it, and also be absolutley immune is really ****ing astounding. The presidency then becomes emperor god-hood. Nobody should ever try to win a second term, tehy should have one term, commit as many crimes as possible (Trump came pretty close to this!), have a coup where they can be president-for-life, if successful and the rest of the government officers are murdered, and then "let the voters decide" in the future if they're unsuccessful. This is just batshit ****ing insane. Even after 4 years of Trump. @Os Trigonum I am embarrassed for you, even still.
