I wreckon K-MART is are franchise player, build around him and we are gun which is what morey is doing
Are you sure about this? According to 82games.com Kevin Martin is only assisted on 57% of his shots. That seems quite high, but then you see that Scola gets assisted on 66% of his shots, C-bud gets assisted on 83% of his shots and Lee gets assisted on 70% of his shots. He's the third least assisted player on the right after our PGs. Not only that, KM manages to get to the line and shoot 11 fts a game. That takes handles to do, as catch and shoot jumpshooters very rarely get fouled. Like his shot, his handles might not be pretty, but its certainly been effective enough.
Randolph and thabeet are 2 players who are not even playing. Randolph can be had for probably patterson and thabeet can be had for a player and a pick probably.
his handles fine, its just his last game, he got whistled for travelling while driving to the hoop at least twice in a couple of mins. partly the defense and partly cos he was forcing it. i thought he looked more frustrated in that game than his others. im surprised he walks the ball from inbound. i always thought hes purely a catch and shoot player. at least thats what i assumed when he was with the kings, hence one of the reason the kings thought he couldnt play alongside their pg. hes a better all around scorer than i thought. and his shooting is awesome. im surprised when he misses his 3s (opposite reaction with bud).
Actually if he was purely a catch and shoot guy he would have thrived alongside Tyreke Evans, since Evans dominates the ball and wants drive and dish (his rookie year anyway). I realized KM wasn't a catch and shoot guy when he couldn't co-exist with Evans.
well i had evans pegged as a steve francis type except selfish (or more selfish depending on ppls perception of stevie). and kevin needed a PG who'd create for him or catch him when he's cutting thru the traffic. read a story of the kings players unhappy with evans dominating the shot clock trying to score and only passing out when he couldnt create a basket and he didnt want to take a bad shot or get the 24 second TO on him. either way kevin is awesomer than i thought n i hope he remains a rocket.
KM only got to play with Reke during his rookie year, when Evans was trying to get the 20-5-5 record and was actually looking to pass that year. Either way, a guy who plays off the ball would fit better with a Francis type of player rather than another guy who has handles and can create his own shot. But yeah, KM's awesome. Its sad that a lot of posters here can't see past his crunch time issue and see what they actually have instead of always complaining about what KM isn't.
Watch him on pick and rolls, his handle is not good enough to create decent offense consistently from it. He has what I call predetermined moves, he has that spin move that he uses to create seperation, and also he has a good first step, so in that sense he can create his shot, but his handle is not good enough that he has counter moves on the dribble, once you take his first step away, he can't do anything.
But the facts disagree with your observation. Like I said its impossible for a player who "can't do anything" other than take one step into the hoop to get more than 10 fts a game and score 20+ pts while only being assisted 57% of the time. His handles might not be elite by any measure but its serviceable enough for him to score a lot and efficiently...on non-crunch time situations anyway.
Happy New Year, jopatmc! What's the appropriate internet term....QFT...? I've been trying to keep up with those abbreviations and all.... What you're suggesting, in regards to Kevin Martin, is precisely what having Yao Ming out of the picture (unfortunately) lends itself to, in terms of creating stability for the Rockets going forward. I'll say that, perhaps this move or commitment to Martin hasn't yet been made because of the looming trade deadline. Until the roster is more-or-less settled after the trade deadline, it's going to be difficult to develop what amounts to a team identity (which is what the Rockets were dealing with earlier with Yao Ming in and out of the lineup at all hours of the morning) without identifying your team. One of the reasons Daryl Morey sought Martin so relentlessly was his remarkable offensive efficiency. Rick Adelman loves how well Martin has always played in his offensive scheme. No matter the price tag or any other deficiencies. You don't salivate over a player like that and don't get everything out of him that you can. And you don't ignore the main reason why you acquired him as some excuse for not finding ways to implement him consistently. In my opinion, the first thing you do is keep Martin on the court as much as possible (that's assuming, of course, you want to win as many games as you can). The only way you do that that makes any sense to me, is to shore up the front line he plays with. Here's the problem, for me: Rick Adelman is too wed to his Princeton offense. It's almost maddening in his stubbornness—somehow the offensive explosiveness justifies its continued configuration in his mind—because at the end of the day, the players you have are going to win the games for you. All good teams need structure. But you need your best players doing what they do best, night-in and night-out. The one aspect of Martin's offensive game which is more or less unreliable, is his 1-on-1 play. But that is the aspect which is unfortunately overexposed, because of a need to somehow develop a "clutch gene" in him that he may not necessarily need, if he scores as well as he does. Martin needs help getting looks just as much in the early stages of games as he does in the late stages. The snag has been that the offense itself sometimes takes away the one strength in Martin's offensive game that can be considered consistent—and that's his movement without the basketball. Adelman's offense is, for all intents and purposes, and inverted offense—big people who play the perimeter, and small people who play on the inside. On the surface (particularly in light of the way perimeter defenders are officated), this seems to be an ideal situation for the Rockets, who finally have more than a few perimeter and wing players who might benefit from that. But sooner or later, the game is the game, and some of the standards of a good, balanced team must be realized: your big people have to play well close to the basket, ad your perimeter people have to play well between the free throw lines. Everybody has to do a serviceable job defensively (individually and collectively), or you're just wasting your time. To me, the best way to keep Kevin Martin on the floor is to improve the play and position of the big people on the front line. It would also be a great help to incorporate more of a traditional offense when Martin is in the game (meaning, the big people setting screens below the foul line for Martin to navigate). Sometimes, the best way to establish a winning atmosphere is to establish a conventional approach...particularly with a player like Martin. Martin does not need the ball in his hands to be effective for the Rockets offensively. That dynamic, if focused upon, makes it easier to fit other players around him into conventional roles. Martin can "create" scoring opportunities with his presence, if the other players' roles are more definite. Martin is a system player, offensively. All great teams have a player or two who don't necessarily need a "system" in order to score (which, above all else, has the Rockets hunting for Carmelo Anthony—Anthony can score under duress anywhere on the court against any defender at virtually any time. That is a RARE ability, and consequently, relentlessly sought after, even thought I don't believe the Rockets will be able to land Anthony at anything more than a half-season, at best). It's been suggested ad nauesum that the Rockets need a legitimate interior big man defender (and they do), but the focus of that has been exclusively for defensive purposes. Suppose a quality center is acquired relatively soon, and that center is more than likely of the conventional variety. How does a player with limited (if any) offensive ability at the high post do anything more than keep the Rockets where they are (and that's mediocre)? It's not really so much the defensive aspect that would be impacted, as the offensive one would. You still need to manufacture enough possessions to take advantage of Martin's conversion rate—and the most consistent way to do that, in my mind, would be more of a double-screen offense with Martin as a moving target, and a point guard or wing as a playmaker/decision-maker/facilitator. You would need your big people to set screens and remain close to the basket for offensive rebounding opportunities, because the bulk of your offensive attempts would be from the perimeter. Balance is a lot easier to bank on than offensive explosiveness, or even defensive prowess, in volume...especially over the long haul. Right now, Kevin Martin is the Rockets' best offensive weapon by the numbers. Aaron Brooks has a case, and to a lesser extent, Luis Scola. It's difficult to decide where to go, in my opinion, as long as the trade winds are blowing so violently. But assuming that Martin is still here after the trade deadline, and that the Rockets still harbor challenging for a postseason berth, the time to shape the offense around what Martin does best may be upon the Rockets.... Again, you need to be careful what you wish for because you just might get it... ...and the Rockets got what they wanted in Kevin Martin. The time's coming to use it....or lose it..... ...not to mention a couple of games or ten....
I got my feet in the air and my head on the ground And the rest of body‘s somewhere in the clouds I’m coming down, no time soon Like I’m tied to a couple hundred helium balloons Looks like imma be up for a minute Uh huh, such a beautiful feeling idn’t it? Yup, where your body is so plateau on a level that just feels so infinite~~~
This team can score it is just protecting the paint. I hope Morey can get a C that protect the paint and rebound in traffic without giving up the main core players.
I really dislike using the whole "1st/2nd/3rd option" when describing players. It's very bad at describing players in general. For example, suppose the Rockets had magically gotten their #1 draft pick 2 years later, and now has Dwight Howard on the team. Howard/Hill/Miller Scola/PP Battier/CBud Martin/Lee Lowry/Brooks Is that not a contender? Of course it is. Who would score the most points on this team? Kevin Martin. Martin is a scorer. He puts points into the basket. We can argue all day whether he does it "the superstar way", but at the end of the day, you can easily envision a team where KMart is the leading scorer or 2nd leading scorer and win a ring. That's because when it comes to scoring, Kevin Martin is elite.
You know, I've been a big Brooks hater since the beginning of last year, mainly for his poor defense...but I feel the need to point out that this year I've been pleasantly surprised by his passing ability and court vision. It's clear to me that he's been working on that each offseason as his main priority, and I've seen him make some pretty heady passes this year that he wouldn't have been able to make last year. He still makes stupid turnovers, primarily when he's trying to drive towards the basket and doesn't realize that his jets aren't 100% and his dribbling loses synch with his stride, but when he looks to dish the rock he's made huge strides in my opinion. And the numbers back me up too: Year AST/36 TO/36 ORtg 2008 4.3 2.3 105 2009 5.4 2.9 108 2010 7.0 2.6 113 Yes his defense is still hurting us just as much as his O helps, and I wish him the best of luck this summer in getting some bad team to pay him 8-12M a year to put up big numbers on their perennial loser, but definitely I think he's improving as a point guard and has a future in the NBA as a legit player at that position. I just wanted to be fair in recognizing his assets while I so mercilessly bash his deficits in other threads. Now onto those other threads!
