25 year old man murdered in Georgia for jogging while black

1. On March 14, 2013, security camera Video from South Georgia Technical College reveals Mr. Arbery provided a friend a pair of wire cutters to use as a weapon as he, the friend, and others waited for another group of men to appear. When the other group arrived, Mr. Arbery and the others engaged in a violent fight;

2. On December 3, 2013, Glynn County Police reports reveal Mr. Arbery unlawfully concealed a handgun into his waistband and tried to gain admission into a high school basketball game. Officers noticed the butt of the gun protruding from his waistband and ordered for him to stop. Mr. Arbery ran from police, which resulted in two officers sustaining injuries: one because Mr. Arbery scratched his arm to get away; the other because the officer fell and sustained injuries during his chase of Mr. Arbery. Also, the Chief of Police reported that as he chased Mr. Arbery in his vehicle, Mr. Arbery reached into his waistband as if searching for his firearm. Police eventually surrounded Mr. Arbery and charged him. He was later convicted for
several felony and misdemeanor charges, including gun possession and obstruction;

3. On October 7, 2017, Glynn County Police body cam video reveals an officer spotted a sole car parked in a park area known for drug activity. The officer could not see who was in the car due to the occupant being inside the car and the car having tinted windows. When he approached the car, the occupant, Mr. Arbery, got out. The officer asked Mr. Arbery for his ID. Within a minute and thirty seconds of the officer holding Mr. Arbery’s license to check his background, Mr. Arbery said, ”Nobody not even driving the car. What the **** you coming over here for? The **** you come over here and **** with me for?” When the officer began to explain his purpose to Mr. Arbery, Mr. Arbery quickly changed his conduct, launched forward at the officer, crossing several feet to confront the officer, and threw out his arms. The officer had to put his arm out to stop Mr. Arbery from colliding with him. Mr. Arbery cursed the officer and then told the officer, ”b**** you hit me with that ****, b****, you gonna be ****ed up." This caused the officer to tell Mr. Arbery he was going to search him for weapons and a second officer to attempt to use a taser on Mr. Arbery. He was not arrested;

4. In June of 2018, 911 audio reveals Mr. Arbery’s mother, Wanda Jones, called 911 due to Mr. Arbery’s refusal to give Ms. Jones her car keys. She made the call from inside her car While Mr. Arbery stood outside her car. During her call to 911, she cautioned the operator that Mr. Arbery had a mental condition that had ”escalated" over time. Additionally, Ms. Jones told the officer that Mr. Arbery might get violent with the officers due to his mental illness, if they were too confrontational with Mr. Arbery or tried to arrest him or take him into custody;

5. On August 21, 2018, Burke County Witness reports and Burke County Office body cam Video reveals Mr. Arbery was caught by a stay-at— home mom who saw him in her backyard looking into the windows of her cars. She called police who found Mr. Arbery at his grandmother’s residence. Police officers arrived to give Mr. Arbery a trespass warning about his conduct and behavior. When confronted by the officers about the eye-witness report, he lied said he had ”gone running in the street,” and then became aggressive, confrontational, and repeatedly threatened that he would “whip the officer’s ass” if they didn't leave him alone. He was not arrested;

6. On October 23, 2018, Burke County reports and Burke County officer body cam video reveal Mr. Arbery and two juveniles were confronted in a vacant mobile home by the Burke County Sheriff’s Office. Mr. Arbery ran when confronted by the authorities. He was later caught and lied, stating he was just out running, when asked about being in the mobile home. He was charged with misdemeanor obstruction for running when given lawful commands to stop;

7. On December 1, 2018, Glynn County officer body cam video reveals Mr. Arbery was arrested, charged, and later convicted for felony shoplifting by entering a store and attempting to steal a television;

8. In 2019 and 2020, witness interviews reveal Mr. Arbery was seen by his own neighbors, removing screen from Windows and trying enter their homes through the windows. When confronted by the neighbors about his conduct and behavior, he appeared ”nervous or agitated" and ”trying to figure out where to go." Then he said he was interested in buy the house but ”took off running. ” On the second occasion, the home owner observed Mr. Arbery trying to gain entrance through a door. They again tried to talk to Mr. Arbery but he would not speak or say anything, he simply ran away;

9. In 2019 and 2020, local convenience store Witness interviews reveal Mr. Arbery became known as ”the jogger" for his repeated conduct and behavior of running up, stretching in front in, and then entering several convenience stores where he would grab items and run out before he could be caught; and

10. In 2020, witness cell phone video reveals Mr. Arbery was confronted at a convenience store by employees about his theft conduct and behavior. Mr. Arbery, cornered about his thefts, chose to fight a man who worked on location at the adjacent truck stop who tried to confront him about it.


1. On October 25, 2019, home surveillance video at 220 Satilla Drive captures Mr. Arbery at night and in the dark canvassing the interior property and valuables contained within;

2. On November 18, 2019, home surveillance video at 220 Satilla Drive captures Mr. Arbery at night and in the dark canvassing the interior property and valuables contained Within;

3. On February 11, 2020, Witness testimony, 911 recordings, and home surveillance Video at 220 Satilla Drive details that Mr. Arbery was once again canvassing the interior and exterior property and valuables at night and that he fled after police were called.

 

It's the typical put the victim on trial. Even if we accept all of that. Even if Aubery was a serial killer GA law says that a civilian cannot apprehend someone unless they actual witness the crime. None of the evidence including the stories from those on trial show that they actually witnessed Aubery committing a crime.

 

This morning I saw a young black man running around some storage building wearing a hoodie and had a hand in his pocket. Should I have shot him or just called the police?

 

Apparently, according to @J.R., you should've shot him because he might've done something some time ago. You couldn't know what that is and you're not the police, but you should make that assumption and fire away.

 

Cross posting this from @Reeko

Defense attorneys for the men charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery won’t be allowed to present evidence of the slain Black man’s past legal problems when their clients stand trial for murder, a Georgia judge ruled.

Gregory and Travis McMichael, a father and son, and their neighbor William “Roddie” Bryan Jr. are awaiting trial this fall for chasing and killing 25-year-old Arbery last year as he ran in their neighborhood outside coastal Brunswick. Jury selection is scheduled to start Oct. 18.

Attorneys for the McMichaels wanted the jury to hear about Arbery’s past run-ins with law enforcement, including two arrests, to cast doubt on prosecutors' contention that he was merely an innocent jogger. Defense attorneys say the white men reasonably suspected Arbery had committed a crime when they began the pursuit that ended in his death.

Prosecutors argued that defense lawyers were seeking to put Arbery on trial by making his criminal record and other prior problems part of the case. None of the three defendants knew Arbery, or anything about his past, prior to the shooting. Prosecutors said his past was irrelevant to their decision to arm themselves and ultimately shoot a man who was trying to run away.

In a written order, Superior Court Judge Timothy Walmsley ruled evidence of Arbery's past run-ins with the law could unfairly “lead the jury to believe that although Arbery did not apparently commit any felony that day, he may pose future dangerousness in that he would eventually commit more alleged crimes, and therefore, the Defendants’ actions were somehow justified.”

"The character of victim is neither relevant nor admissible in murder trial,” the judge wrote in his ruling Monday.

The McMichaels pursued Arbery in a pickup truck after they spotted him running in their neighborhood Feb. 23, 2020. Bryan joined the chase and took cellphone video of Travis McMichael shooting Arbery three times at close range with a shotgun.

Defense attorneys argue the three men committed no crimes. They say the McMichaels suspected Arbery was a burglar after he was recorded by video cameras inside a home under construction. Travis McMichael’s lawyers say he shot Arbery in self-defense.

Arbery was unarmed when he was killed. Prosecutors have said nothing was stolen from the construction site and Arbery was merely jogging.

Defense attorneys have also asked the judge to let them introduce evidence Arbery suffered from a mental illness. Walmsley has not ruled on that request.

Arbery pleaded guilty to charges he carried a gun onto a high school campus in 2013, a year after he graduated. Rodney Ellis, police chief for the Glynn County school system, testified at Wednesday’s hearing that Arbery tried to evade officers on foot and stopped only when two of them pointed guns at him.

He was also arrested in 2017 on charges that he tried to steal a TV from a Walmart store. Court records show he pleaded guilty to shoplifting. Arbery was on probation at the time of his death.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...berys-past-troubles-irrelevant-trial-79765940

 

Travis McMichaels takes the stand in his own defense.


My guess is the defense in this case is looking to the Rittenhouse trial but these situations are very different. McMichaels and the others deliberately pursued Arbery and sought to capture him. While I still think Rittenhouse had no business being there he was the one being pursued by those he shot.

 

Unless I missed another thread kind of surprised this trial is getting so little attention here. There's been as much drama in this one as in the Rittenhouse trial especially with moves by the Defense to try to get "Black Pastors" out of the courtroom.

 

I've been patiently waiting for this trial and snagging updates as they come while I haven't given two ***** about Rittenhouse.

Really curious why it's not getting traction, but whatever, I just want these dangerous idiots thrown in jail.

 

I think it's because no one is really siding with the defendants. Even the right wing racists think these guys are **** heads and murderers or at least have a hard time defending them.

The Rittenhouse case is more interesting because there is a lot of grey area when it comes to self defense and deadly force. If you look at both side of the Rittenhouse case, you could argue that everybody involved did everything at least legally if not wisely except for curfew violations. I think the dismissal of the gun charge was goofy as F, but maybe the law is written in the books poorly.

 

yes that is the case

 

Go back and look at this thread. There's a conga line of wingnuts stumbling all over themselves to paint these guys as victims and the deceased as a criminal.

 

I’ve been following this case and look for updates every 2-3 days, but this one seems pretty straightforward to me…of course, u never know since the justice system can’t be trusted

 

Until the facts came during the trial. Now they are quiet because unless the criminal system is F'ed again, they should get convicted. If not, then this thread will get how again. Right wingnuts hate getting their noses rubbed in losing so when they do, they just change the subject.

 

They really all disappeared at the beginning of the Summer around the start of the George Floyd stuff.

 

This case is so bad I haven’t even seen the usual suspects trying to defend these yokels.

 

OK I’ll make my first post in this thread. I hope they hang those rednecks on the steps of the Georgia Capitol building at high noon

 

Post 1341 of this thread was repost of a tweet about Ahmed Arbery's troubles with the law.

 

Maybe it is that everyone agrees that they are guilty, very unusual for D&D, but still surprised there isn't more comment about the Defense attempting to get rid of black pastors from sitting in the gallery or Travis McMichael testifying in his own defense.

From what I've seen of the cross it looks like Travis McMichael might sink not just himself but also his father and the other defendant.

 

You know you are going to get a couple of troll bot morons. Only a few right wingers on this board are that r****ded and I have most of them on ignore.

 

What did he do on that day to be harassed and shot to death?