Maybe. Although we usually figure these things out around the same time. I dunno we don't watch the show together most times and aven then its apparent to me. I think 24 is like an action movie thats streched to long so maybe thats why it seems so predictable.
imo, this season is less predictable than many of the others. If it were formulaic, Marilyn would've come out of nowhere to shoot Phillip at the last second before he took down Jack. What is happening in the majority of cases (not talking about anyone specifically) imo is a sub-conscious bias against the show's popularity. I've seen it tons of times. For whatever reason, when a show gets really popular and gets the kind of critical acclaim that 24 has gotten in the last year, people judge it by a different standard and start looking for flaws, often without even realizing they're doing it. That's what I think is happening this season, where people are criticizing 24 for many plot elements that have taken place in each and every one of the past seasons.
I'm sure said unnamed people have said the same things about past seasons. Anyhow, if it were a sub-conscious bias then why would they still watch the show? It's a good show but its predictable. Maybe some people just predict wrong more often than others. Formulaic it is, you just need to know the right formula. It's like Algebra. You always get the wrong answers if you use the wrong formula.
i think the killing off of other main characters in having a subtle effect...its now officially a 1 man show
They watch the show because they've enjoyed it in the past and it's a habit. I disagree on the second part. To me, it's predictable in hindsight. Obviously, with a show that's been on this long, almost every situation has somewhat of parallels from previous seasons. There are obviously different specifics which make each season unique and special, but in the big picture, of course there are common themes. However, how do you know which theme they're going to use? Tell me what formula I could've used to determine that Phillip would run away instead of being shot down at the last moment by Marilyn? I know what many will say; that the bad guys get away when its not the final hour of the season (see Marwan). Except that's some cases, not all. See Tony's last-minute killing of the guy in the Bauer house at 7 p.m. in season 1. Everything's predictable in hindsight, because you can tie the result to a previous event and claim the writers are following a template. However, in the moment, I'm not sure how the ending to this episode could be seen. And if it could've been, I'd appreciate being told of this formula.
Kinda like when Teri, Nina, Sherry, Kim and the Palmers (the main supporting characters in Seasons 1-3) disappeared before season 4?
24's style is to be half predictable and half absurd. Some moments you think you expect, and then they throw a curve that shoots into left field. The problem isn't the plot. It's the pacing that's been going on for the last 3 episodes.
This is what breeds predictability. It takes a while sometimes, but everyone eventually gets tired of such formulaic (that's what it's called when a show does the same sh*t over and over) approaches.
Right, but it was equally predictable (in a broader sense, still don't think the specific plots were) in seasons 4 and 5. Not sure why it was ok for 4 and 5 years, but suddenly 6 is the magic number where it's bad. imo, for a lot of people, it has a lot to do with the record-high ratings and the Emmy wins and things like that.
Nukes actually going off Jack killing Curtis Jack being conflicted the whole season wondering if he can still do it A second black president?!?!?! Dude with glasses from last season being Jack's brother Jack's dad murdering Graham and trying to kill Jack Logan having involvement Yep, predicted all that before the season even started.
I don't pay attention to emmy wins and ratings. I've never watched the emmys and I didn't think 24 was even doing that well ratings wise, not as well as a lot of other popular shows anyway. So, just right there, I know your opinion is dead wrong regarding me. It's probably wrong about a lot of these other people too. Sh*t man, sometimes 6 is enough. These things hardly ever happen gradually (fans becoming disenchanted with a TV/book series' formula). Maybe the creators have something really cool in store for us later in the season, but right now the show is feeling a bit stale.
True, maybe it just has reached a limit for some. Is it possible that people are just predicting things more *often* now that they've seen so much 24? Which inevitably means that sometimes they'll be right... (and usually people just tend to forget when they were wrong b/c whatever happened was so surprising it draws them in and makes them forget about their prediction) Also, agreed with Cannonball...aside from the 2nd black president (that's no big deal to me in the show)...can you say you predicted any of those things? Or that almost all of them weren't huge twists this year? When we found out that Graeme from last year was Jack's freaking brother, that was huge!
Being that I spend tons of time (in real life) listening to his random musing while watching 24 I can say yes he actually called most of the list ahead of time. I mean he figured out the Graeum thing last season and Wayne being the president pretty early on too. I called Jack killing curtis and Jack's dad being evil was a total given. The funny thing is you guys think he's just saying this stuff but he actually is very accurate at telling me what happens or where a storyline is going before it happens. I guess since he's a writer it's hard to watch t.v. with out looking at it from that standpoint. It's funny because I've noticed that now I figure out whats happening pretty early on in the show too. But that said 24 is still superawesome. I mean who else blows nukes uup on t.v.?
I really miss Audrey. She was hot, a good actor and had great chemistry with Jack. Where the hell is she? He mentioned something about her not knowing he was back in the US when he arrived from China in the first episode, but now Im afraid that hes got the hots for his sister in law... DAMMIT! Plus whats the deal with all the young sons in 24? Weakest acting on the show period.
Everything you said occured in only a few episodes. And early episodes at that (save for Logan). That's why the show seems to be stalling, as well. Started with a nice bang, but now it just seems to be coasting along. Sometimes it's better to spread the twists and climaxes out more evenly. The creators concentrated theirs early and now seemed to have backed off. Usually a show or script does something like this for the expressed purpose of audience control. Throw out a few standard devices, some mild shocks (really mild. I mean, come on, we all knew Logan was returning due to his involvement with Graham and Papa Jack last season), try to bring the people down to a somewhat even keel in order to preserve the impact of the next big twist or event without having it diluted by those that came before. This is what I'm hoping their doing. Their timing is horrible, causing them to become dependent on the 24 formula for too many consecutive episodes, but there should be something decent waiting in the wings. I hope.
Took the words right off my fingers. I'm sure AstroRocket predicted Logan's salt and pepper beard about 10 seconds after he predicted Logan would even appear.
