I seriously think he will be dealt, but only for contracts that expire before 2010 and or these teams he always wanted to play for. San Antonio Indiana Lakers It's because these teams were also on the Grady trade wish list from Orlando. I don't think the team would bend any future plans just for him though.
Sit everyone who need to be sitting, whether due to injury or effort. Get the remaining players to play with intensity and effort, regardless of wins and losses. Hope we'll have a healthy team and a winning record by the end of the All Star Break.
What is Tanya Harding doing these days? Maybe we can hire her or her henchman to take a crowbar to Tmac's knee so that he is really hurt, and the Rockets can file for a medical waiver. DD
21-13? Probably not the record in which we need to make a move. If we can trade like... Battier or Landry/Scola for some guy that can help us win a title. I can get behind that trade. We aren't getting out of the first round with a team based around Yao and Artest. It's just not happening. The reason we are playing so bad right now is because the team is essentially just Yao and Artest. If we're 21-21 by the deadline, maybe its time to make a panic move and play for a title in 2010. Or make the decision to rebuild and go after a star in 2010. I think what Houston needs to do is just get hard on the players. We were able to win 2/3rds of our games when Yao went down and it was just Tmac. We should be able to put up a fighting chance with Tmac playing as bad as he is. We have the personnel. They just aren't motivated.
Western Conference Power House, the diminutive Houston Rockets Basketball Team, once considered Contenders for the 2009 World Championships, has succumbed to the lowly Toronto Raptors. In fact they were crushed by the determined Raptors 94pts to 73 pts. The Rockets played with heart, so much so that they slightly raised their interest in the game to just above gutless. Their Coach, once great Coach Adelman of the famed Sacrament offence, was content to see that the Rockets play a complete game without an organized play. In fact they performed the Sacrament offence and defense as though they were Vlade Devac and Chris Webber to a tee (Retired of course!). Content in his seat, along with the other emotion less assistant coaches he was witness to a showing by his team, that there is something deeply wrong about the team and its play. By the end of this Road Trip possibly General Manager, Morey the Wizard, might be tempted to turn over the reigns to Tom Thibodeau, who is about the only Coach who could turn things around in the second half of the season. This team can’t play the Sacramento game and it almost can’t do anything by playing its injured players’ This team will go nowhere without a game plan that includes all the talented players, a new Floor General and a Back up athletic Center are desperately needed, Mutombo is incapable of being this person. Won Wafer was purswaded to give up his regular role as bench warmer and played the last 12 mins. of the game. Von Wafer came to play and was not effected by the down mood of his companions-he was the high scorer for the Rockets with 18points
My ass... Tmac isn't motivated. I'll give you that. But he hasn't been motivated his entire career, and that didn't stop Yao, Alston, Scola, etc. You can't sit there and tell me that the Washington loss and this loss are solely on Tmac. Too many players had bad games.. its easier to talk about the players that had average games.
Agent, Tmac's attitude will permeate the entire team, they see what he is not doing out there, and it probably disgusts them. This team is coming apart at the seams, and it is 100% because of Tmac.... When the organization has to sit you down and ask you to compete, something is not right. You can sugar coat it all you like, but Tmac is killing this team, he has become more of a cancer than Marbury in New York. DD
If you are going to tell me that Tmac's attitude... permeated... the entire team. Then I'll tell you our team should grow a sack of their own and not be forced to count on Tmac for their own attitude. That might be the dumbest thing I ever heard.
You call Tmac a cancer too... What was he the first 3-4 years he was averaging 20+ a game? We never got out of the first round, fine. But we were also playing with guys like Wesley, Hayes and Mutombo in the STARTING LINE UP!
I can tell by your post that you have never played organized ball, or any team sport in your life, at least not one where there was a prima donna who quit. Because then you would understand. Never mind though, keep apologizing for your boy Tmac, meanwhile he will continue to suck the life out of the team. YES HE IS A CANCER !!!! Are you watching the darned games? Who cares if he brought it last year, the year before, he is NOT DOING IT NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kids...SHEESH !!!! DD
With or without TMac the strength of the Rockets with Yao has been hard agressive defense and a good 1/2 court game inside out. The defense is a joke at this point and that has nothing to do with TMac. Our 1/2 court offense is confusion. We don't have the relentless first option pounding the ball down to Yao and we aren't moving the ball around to open shooters and most of all we aren't shooting well. In the past few seasons when the outside shot wasn't falling we relied on really good defense to stay in games. If we are going to run some kind of hybrid RA offense it isn't working. TMac is injured and not playing hard; whether it is real or not he is playing about 60% both skill wise and effort wise. OK- if TMac is all messed up in his head then the coach has to deal with it. Either get him motivated, healthy or out of here. But I don't think you can blame a lazy defensive effort night in and out on TMac. And I sure wouldn't blame the offense that looks like no one is sure about anything on TMac. The offense is not playing to a first or second option, guys like Rafer, Artest, Brooks, and Landry look lost... Only Yao and Scola seem sure of their role. Yao still acts like he wants it in the post. Scola still is looking to hustle his way to 15 pts a game. This team works better with a disciplined scheme. I'm tired of watching them looking like deer in the headlights.
Ok... so then explain to me how we have won 50 games the past 4-5 seasons with this "cancer" on our team? I'm not apologizing for Tmac. I'm also not blaming Yao's, Artests, Brooks', Barry's, and Landrys pathetic performance today all on Tmac. Tmac has always had the "quitter" label on him ever since he got here.. and we keep winning 50 games every season. Your logic has more holes than our defense did today. Explain to me this too. Apparently if attitude is contagious... Tmac (and Yao when he wasn't injured) was the only player playing worth a damn in the playoffs. Yet guys like Head, Battier, couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. You have 4-5 guys playing with no motivation and yet Tmac can manage to hit his average. If attitude is contagious... shouldn't Tmac have tanked during those playoffs? Your logic is complete BS dude. You just want to believe that it was just one thing wrong today and not 4-5 things.
DD, another flaw in your logic. When Tmac was out...we were playing .500 ball. Now, if Tmac is the problem... we should've been able to beat teams like the Clippers and Indiana.
The management should stay put. It's not a good time to propose a trade right now, it'd be dumb as hell. But Morey should, however, drive to T-Mac's house and roundhouse kick that dude's sorry a$$ (sorry, I meant have a long talk with him). This is getting ridiculous.
Because it was LAST year and not THIS year...and the goal is not to win 50 games but to be a contender... I am not either, they sucked, but you can not tell me that they don't see what is going on, and it has no effect on their play that is just stupid. You know why he has the quitter label? Hmmmmm, let's see...oh yeah, because he QUIT.....and admitted he quit in Orlando. TMac wasn't great in the playoffs, he was good, but not great, players who are GREAT in the playoffs don't shrink like violets in the 4th quarter. Keep on apologizing.....your sides numbers are dwindling. DD
But he's a cancer according to you! You are contradicting yourself dude. In the sense that they basically didn't have to guard Tmac it effected the team. But Yao was missing point blank shots. Barry, Brooks and Head couldn't hit anything. Also... another flaw in your logic. Wafer was on fire in the 4th. Apparently Tmac's attitude is contageous to everyone... except Wafer? And Alston and Scola... they had good games statistically. Yes, we've known this for 5 years now. And we've been a solid team despite that too. Now suddenly it means he's a cancer? Not great, but played atleast his average, and the team by comparison was crap (again... with the exception of Yao). I'm not apologizing for anyone. See... this is where you stop using logic and make bad attempts to strawman me. I'm not apologizing for Tmac. YOU are apologizing for the rest of the team. You say Tmac is a punk because he blames his teammates (which he does, and thats one of his faults), and thats essentially what you are doing. Its not Brooks' fault he hasn't hit **** for 3 games... its because of Tmac. At this point, I almost hope that the Rockets panic and move Tmac for Marbury just so we can flame out, and prove you wrong. Thats how much your logic is bothering me. DD[/QUOTE]
