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2025 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Mar 28, 2025.

  1. Screaming Fist

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    I think his slider is definitely a put away pitch (120+ Stuff+ with plenty of whiffs), but being a slider it's going to have a big handedness tilt. Needs something he can use on opposite handed hitters. The spin on his curve is pretty weak but the Astros have shown a knack at developing changeups, so hopefully that's something that can be improved over time to give him something strike out RHBs.

    Another thing I like about him, from what I've read, is that he's very smart and coachable like Arrighetti and those kinds of guys (especially pitchers) I tend to be more favorable in projecting.

    Walter looks like he might have a similar profile - walk limiter with enough Ks but possibly better contact management given that he keeps the ball on the carpet much better than Gordon.
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    That's why god invented the changeup.

    ...and Framber should teach him his cutter.
     
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  4. Snake Diggit

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    Yeah I’m actually pretty bullish on Walter. He could be a really good BoR guy for the next 2-3 years.
     
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  6. Amadeus Rooster

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    Buck yes!!! If we had a team that we could make ourselves we have to agree if we had top 2 bunters at top of the order to set the table we would rule, eh?
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    It's a lost art, and I don't understand why more speedy guys don't excel at it. Hell, Brett Butler and others made a career out of it. It's basically un-defendable if done right.

    I totally understand why middle of the order guys don't spend a lot of thought and effort at it.

    Drag bunting for a hit and sac bunting are 2 different skills, I'll admit.
     
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  8. Wulaw Horn

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    Always sell on guys without an out pitch. It's almost impossible to live in this league if guys aren't in fear of getting behind 0-2 or 1-2 and feel like they will still be able to get a good piece of the next pitch. It's what innings like the 1st and 2nd look like with just a barrage of hits yesterday even when he was up 2 outs and 0-2 and they ended up scoring 2 and stranding the world.
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    This. Gotta put 'em away.
     
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  10. AkeemTheDreem86

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    If we're proposing that we cannot continue to exceed expectations, must we not also conceed to claiming that neither can we continue to subceed expectations?

    The midnight train goes both ways.



    Listen to the track.
     
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    You're gonna be a genius anyway.

    No matter what they say about you
     
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  12. AkeemTheDreem86

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    A man walks down the street
    It’s a street in a strange world
    Maybe it’s the third world
    Maybe it’s his first time around
    He doesn’t speak the language
    He holds no currency
    He is a foreign man

    He is surrounded by the sound, the sound
    Cattle in the marketplace
    Scatterlings and orphanages
    He looks around, around
    He sees angels in the architecture
    Spinning in infinity
    He says, “Amen!” and “Hallelujah!”



    I ****ing love baseball!
     
  13. AkeemTheDreem86

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    ****, meant to do this one:
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

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    Well, I beat the drum and hold the phone
    The sun came out today
    We're born again, there's new grass on the field
    A-roundin' third and headed for home
    It's a brown-eyed handsome man
    Anyone can understand the way I feel

    Oh, put me in, coach
    I'm ready to play today
    Put me in, coach
    I'm ready to play today
    Look at me, I can be centerfield

    Well, I spent some time in the Mudville Nine
    Watching it from the bench
    You know I took some lumps
    When the Mighty Casey struck out
    So say, "Hey Willie, tell Ty Cobb and Joe DiMaggio"
    Don't say it ain't so you, know the time is now

    You got a beat up glove, a homemade bat
    And a brand new pair of shoes
    You know I think it's time to give this game a ride
    Just to hit the ball and touch 'em all, a moment in the sun
    It's a-gone and you can tell that one goodbye

    Oh, put me in, coach
    I'm ready to play today
    Put me in, coach
    I'm ready to play today
    Look at me, gotta be centerfield

     
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    Wrote a deep dive on Cam today and compared him to people who are doing this kind of thing at that age. It’s a good good list.
     
  16. Shark44

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    Can you share link please?
     
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  17. Buck Turgidson

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    Albert Pujols?
     
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  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Where is Hunter Brown?
     
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  20. Bregatron

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    Not that it matters too much, but that seems to be just the AL (still pretty good), despite what Schwab said. Pena is tied for 10th in all of baseball with Wheeler.
     
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