Yordan needs to come back and hit well in September if he's going to be moved. If that happens you can trade him for 85 cents on the dollar. I'd do Yordan for a top 50, top 100, Dezenzo like Corner OF/DH and 2 other propsects that would slot in the Astros top 15. That would be my price for 3 years 66M for Yordan.
There is a huge variance in what Correa might cost, not just because of the question of how much $ the Twins eat but also just how Correa is valued. So it won’t shock me if the return is minimal even if they eat significant money. On the other hand it also wouldn’t shock me if Houston takes on almost all of the money and gives up significant talent. But the main difference between you and me on this is that I think you dramatically overvalue Ullola and Arrighetti. I can at least understand Arrighetti, since he’s actually shown flashes of dominance in the big leagues (but still has a 4.60 era in the majors after 150+ innings). But what is this obsession with Ullola based on, a blurb or two online about him having one of the best fastballs in the world? Hes a 6’1” RP allowing 6.75 bb/9 in AAA; his current projections paint him as Rhiner Cruz, not Bryan Abreu. And that’s IF he stays healthy. I concede he has immense ceiling but there is so much risk in any pitcher and especially one who walks as many guys as Ullola does. There’s a reason he’s not on a single updated Top 100 list. Bryan Abreu is a 75th percentile outcome for him. ToR SP is a 95th percentile outcome. Finally, whoever gets Cease is going to “overpay”.
Agreed and. . . Cease is a rental, so would be crazy expensive Correa is expensive and has a full no trade. It has been reported that Astros are only team he will waive it for. Those 2 factors should keep the trade cost down. The Astros really don't have any tradeable assets that you say "please please no"
I would put Kevin Alvarez on that list. But yeah as long as they get value back I really don’t have anybody on the no trade list. I am comfortable with Houston coming out of this deadline with Neyens and Alvarez as their top 2 prospects.
There's NO way I'm trading for Correa. Even if the Twinkies pay some of his contract. He'd still be making over twenty million the next three seasons all for a guy who's ops is barely over .700 and has a SLG of .385. Throw in he gets hurt quite a bit.
All you guys pooping on Correa are silly. This is a tremendous deal for Houston. They have infinite leverage because they’re the only team he will approve a trade to and the owners have mandated the GM to clear payroll. On top of that, it is a buy-low move because Correa is having a down year, BUT his bat speed and underlying metrics still show he can be an elite hitter. Even with his performance dinged by injury, he has posted 79th percentile bat speed and 74th percentile hard hit rate and is averaging over 90mph exit velo (all those numbers better than just about every hitter on Houston’s roster). This is a HUGE boon for the Astros if it happens.
I feel like if we get good value (don't have to give up too much in the way of prospects and maybe get the Twins to eat some of the contract) AND he's willing to play 3rd base going forward, I'm all for it. I think it would be a boost to him personally and we'd see the Correa we're used to. I'd certainly be more excited about adding him than the other alleged options out there.
Looking at last night's winning lineup: Taylor Trammell LF-CF-LF Jose Altuve DH Christian Walker 1B Cam Smith RF Jacob Melton CF Cooper Hummel PH-LF Chas McCormick CF Yainer Diaz C Mauricio Dubón 3B Shay Whitcomb 2B Zack Short SS I bolded the expected starters at the beginning of the season. I also bolded Dubon who is our super-sub and is expected to be in and out of the lineup all year. That is just 5 "expected" starters. The big missing pieces are DH Yordan, SS Pena, 3B Paredes and CF Meyers. None of which are locks to be back at 100% by playoffs. GM Dana Brown might pretend that Yordan, Pena and Meyers will be back but that might a show for trading partners. Looking at SP, the Astros have two aces, Framber and Diesel. The rest of the SPs are AAAA pitchers, who may be on their way to making the next step, but equally could not be. Astros have pitchers coming off injury who could return for the playoff run, if they return to form: Javier, Garcia, LMJ?, Arrighetti, Walter?. If two of these SPs can come back strong, the Astros should be set for the playoff run and playoffs. This seems to be more likely than not. For the Astros to make a playoff run, they have to have strong performances from these soon-to-uninjured players ... with or without any major trades. To maximize their playoff chances, the Astros may need to bring lots and lots of everyday players since they can not assume that their soon-to-uninjured players can deliver. This will not be cheap and the Astros Farm may not have enough prospects. A strong case could be made that the Astros should stand pat (or make only minor trades). A deep playoff run is a long shot and may not be worth betting their future prospects on it. At his point, the returning SPs look to be the safest bet. And that calls into serious question why the Astros are interested in Dylan Cease, especially given what may be the cost to land what may be the best SP on the trade market. Agreed.
I’m not sure why people are pushing back on the idea of Correa coming back, and if Bob nightingale is reporting on possible reunion, he has spoken directly to Crane. Bob has a relationship with Jim Crane. The Astros’ clubhouse has a very strong culture, and if you don’t think Correa will have an immediate impact on this, you’re not looking at the whole picture. The guy isn’t washed up, and he is coming off a great month where is he batting .300 in July. Everyone knows he didn’t want to leave Houston, and this type of move imo will open doors for 2026. I don’t think the cost will be very high.
Off season deal if the Astros get Correa Yordan to Reds for Rhett Lowder RHSP MLB #41, FG #50 Alfredo Duno C MLB #82, FG #16 Chase Petty RHSP MLB #97, FG #52 Reds are motivated to compete with a manager who has a very limited window. They are loaded with young pitching. They still have Hunter Greene, Nick Lodolo, Andrew Abbott, Brady Singer and #2 MLB overall prospect Chase Burns who made MLB debut in 2025. Rhett Lowder: will be 24. RHSP is just returning from an injury that has wiped out just about entire 2025 season to date but will get 2 months to prove health.. Had a very good 6 start debut in 2024. He has been passed over on depth chart by the pitchers listed above. Reds don't want to trade him but should be motivated if there is a chance to get Yordan. Alfredo Duno: 19 year old catcher currently repeating A ball in Daytona. A freak athlete and rare 4 1/2 tool catcher ( can actually run a little). Chase Petty: will be 23. After a great 2024, Petty has had a very poor 2025 and is a classic change of scenery candidate. Reds are considering moving him now for 3B help, especially in a possible Suarez reunion.
As it stands currently, Even having a down year Correa is better than anything we have right now. Discounted contract rate, clubhouse intangibles, short porch to left, comfort level with the city. I would see a reunion as a win. Depends on who would be going to Minny would be my only hangup, unless we get back over the CBT. Thats a different issue. I think we would get a reduced comp pick for Framber, if he hits the road in free agency. Not 100% sure on that.
If Correa comes back and Paredes comes back healthy, that's the elite infield defense that the team seemed to pursue this offseason by moving Altuve to left and signing Rodgers -- except it has much more pop. Paredes-Pena-Rodgers-Walker or Dubon-Short-Matthews-Walker or Correa-Pena-Paredes-Walker The last is the best scenario... oh gawd, we are going to trade Brice, aren't we...?
Dana sure as **** not saying that Yordan is out for the season. Trading partners would up The Ask for any position player trade.
Cease AND Correa seem like pipe dreams. I just don't think The Astros have the trade capital to compete w/ franchises w/ deeper farms. I also think one or the other, while possible, is also of medium likelihood. Hoping to be surprised, but expecting to be underwhelmed by this trade deadline
Unfortunately I actually believe Brown and Alvarez about his issue, in that he has a condition that results in chronic inflammation in his hand that cannot be fixed with surgery; the only remedy is rest and limiting strain. So moving forward Alvarez is going to be playing hurt and frequently hitting the IL, and he is probably not going to be the kind of player he has been to this point.
I’m not going to pretend I have inside information because I don’t. I think if this deal doesn’t happen, it’s because the Twins aren’t willing to throw in enough cash to cover the spread. Jon Morosi was talking about Bob’s tweet regarding the Astros. I don’t think he is spot on as he thinks Suarez would be the better option for Houston. They did bring up Sandy Alcántara has a possible fit for Houston. I think acquiring him would be like trading for Verlander in 2017.
Getting Correa is not about the farm system, it’s about Crane being willing to pay the money. Honestly getting Cease is not really about the farm system either, it’s about which team is willing to give up the best controllable big leaguer(s). It will not surprise me if Houston adds 2 really good big league players today or tomorrow and is able to keep at least 8 of the top 10 players on their current top prospects list on mlb.com.
