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2025 Astros Minor League Thread

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  1. Snake Diggit

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    Please tell me why you have Jagger Beck, a recent UDFA who hasn’t thrown an inning of pro ball, among the top prospects in the system.
     
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  2. panamamyers

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    I have Nezuh right below Brito.
    I also have Colby Langford up in the top 10.
     
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  3. Snake Diggit

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    Langford has the stuff but that 8bb/9 is brutal.

    I think it’s interesting that 7 of their top 8 prospects (my list) could reach the majors this season.
     
  4. raining threes

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    Looks like some pretty good trade pieces.

    I've got Fleury #6 on your list.

    But that's just from what I've read.
     
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  5. sealclubber1016

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    FWIW that is a 70 grade name.
     
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    He has no established floor yet but due to the shallow depth of pitching in the system he winds up among my top pitching prospects based solely on youth and his (by my accounting) very high ceiling.
     
  7. Nook

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    Personally I have never been a big fan of Janek as a MLB starting catcher prospect. I just don’t trust the bat.

    Jaworsky developing power would sky rocket his value, but I think he is more likely to improve his bat to ball skills.

    This year is going to tell us a lot about Baez, Gomez and Ochoa.

    We have a bunch of flawed but high upside guys- really only need a couple to take the leap.
     
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    I dolike Janek either. I might be in the minority but I have faith in Matthews. If he can be a Bourn type he'd be extremely valuable
     
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    People having solid opinions on Janek is funny. Dude has 2-3 development years to figure it out. Maybe, he will. Maybe, he won't.
     
  10. raining threes

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    The pitching is pretty good and deep if you look at the list that Snake posted.
     
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  11. Snake Diggit

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    “Realistic” Ceiling comps for the 10 prospects I think will determine if Houston’s window stays open beyond 2035:

    1. Cam Smith: Pete Alonso with defensive versatility
    2. Jacob Melton: Colton Cowser with less walks and more steals
    3. Zach Dezenzo: Christopher Morel
    4. Brice Matthews: Teoscar Hernandez with more defensive value and more steals
    5. Luis Baez: Jake Burger
    6. Shay Whitcomb: Randy Arozarena
    7. Pedro Leon: Jose Siri with more versatility but worse CF defense
    8. Zach Cole: Brandon Marsh
    9. Kenedy Corona: Ramon Laureano
    10. Jeron Williams: Bo Bichette
     
  12. panamamyers

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    Morel never cut down on strikeouts or when he finally did he couldn't hit any more.. Was pretty consistently a high K guy. Dezenzo has already gone from 30% in AA one year to 25% the next to 22% in AAA to 12% in the winter league. I don't think he will have near the strikeout issues that Morel has had. Morel strikes out 25% of the time in winter league too
     
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  13. Snake Diggit

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    I didn’t spend a ton of time researching. But if Dezenzo is able get his k rate in the 21-25% range he’d maybe comp better to somebody like Taylor Ward.
     
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  14. The Beard

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    This will be an interesting year for Morel

    he is with a WAY better organization now
     
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  15. Snake Diggit

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    Fun with stat filtering:

    Since 2006, only 12 AAA players age 26 or younger have had a 20/20 season with a wRC+ >118:

    Joc Pederson
    Josh Lowe
    Kyle Tucker
    Pedro Leon
    Shay Whitcomb
    Trey Cabbage
    Ryan Noda
    Estevan Florial
    Justin Ruggiano
    Jarrett Parker
    Andrew Navigato
    Brewer Hicklen
     
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  16. Snake Diggit

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    https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2025-top-100-prospects/

    Fangraphs Top 100 came out today. Cam Smith (70) was the only Astros prospect on the list; they comp him to Alec Bohm. I was surprised Jacob Melton wasn’t on the list after they’ve made several comments about him as a potential ROY dark horse.

    Interestingly, 2 prospects the Astros traded away made the list: P Jake Bloss (66) and P Chayce McDermott (71).

    My list of guys I think could be on next year’s list, in order of likelihood:
    High likelihood:
    3B Cam Smith

    Med likelihood:
    IF Brice Williams
    C Walker Janek

    Low likelihood:
    OF Luis Baez
    SS Chase Jaworsky
    P Miguel Ullola
    OF Kenni Gomez
    OF Nehomar Ochoa
    OF Zach Cole
    P Anderson Brito
    SS Jeron Williams
    P Ethan Pecko
    P Jackson Nezuh
    P Juan Bello
    OF Kenedy Corona

    I expect Jacob Melton, Zach Dezenzo, and AJ Blubaugh to graduate this year.
     
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  17. Snake Diggit

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    Astros-related quote from fangraphs prospect writer in his chat today:


    sliptoad: As a big Melton (Astros org) fan, what changed in your evaluation of him to drop him from the top 100



    1:11
    Eric A Longenhagen: Not a CF defense fit, inside outed a ton of fastballs, worry he’ll ge crushed by lefties. Platoon guy, still good.
     
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  18. Snake Diggit

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    https://blogs.fangraphs.com/zips-2025-top-100-prospects/

    ZIPS prospect rankings are almost entirely stats-based. They have Jacob Melton (74) and Brice Matthews (97) in the Top 100 with Cam Smith at 129.

    Houston has the 11th most prospects in the top 500 (18), but the least in the top 50 (0), and 3rd least in the top 100 (2) and top 200 (4). This aligns with my perception that Houston has above average depth in their system but is just lacking in top tier talent; they are 2 Top 50 prospects away from being an above average system.
     
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  19. raining threes

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    I'm hoping that Smith/Matthews/Janek, Baez can make a big jump this season and the system will look much different. BTW, I consider Gomez to be a high end prospect. He's just young and growing into his body.

    What did these people think of Yanier before he was brought up to the MLB roster?
     
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  20. Snake Diggit

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    A lot of very high ceiling teenage talent played in Fayetteville last season. Gomez, Jaworsky, Villarroel, and Ochoa are the guys who showed pretty well, but lots of other guys with ceiling didn’t show well: Camilo Diaz, Waner Luciano, German Ramirez, Carlos Hernandez, and Alberto Hernandez all have the ceiling to be very good MLB players. I am also pretty high on Esmil Valencia who stayed in the FCL all year. Anthony Huezo is also worth tracking.

    There’s a big gap between the 18/19/20 year olds who spent most of 2024 in Fayetteville (that I listed above) and the 23/24/25+ year olds who will be in the upper levels this year, with Janek and Smith really the only prospects who would fit in the middle group to bridge it. Guys like Cam Fisher and Tyler Whitaker busting put a big dent there.

    All that said, I agree with you and I have full optimism that the system will look much better in 7 months than it does now.
     
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