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2024 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Apr 4, 2024.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Neither.
     
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  2. IdStrosfan

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    bWAR
    Chapman 18.7
    Bregman 15.8

    fWAR
    Chapman 15.8
    Bregman 16.9

    Avg
    Chapman 17.25 in 619g = 4.51 per 162g
    Bregman 16.35 in 575g = 4.61 per 162g

    They are essentially equal but Alex is a year younger. Chapman's deal is for his ages 32-37 seasons.
     
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  3. mvpcrossxover

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    how are teams hit grand slams with ease?!!!!!!!

    i believe astros are the only team without a grand slam this year. not sure if boston got one yet.
     
  4. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    We hit 11 in 2019... Altuve with 2, Yuli with 2, Bregs with 2, Correa 1, Yordan 1, Chirinos 1, Aledmys 1, and Tyler White 1
     
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    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Let's not discuss Boston and grand slams... I was there for that playoff game.
     
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  6. BlindHog

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    Truth is we are vastly outnumbered by "casual fans". In the big picture fans reactions do not mean enough to tip the scales one way or the other.
     
  7. BlindHog

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    A 2 year deal is the most I would be willing to gamble on a player with his injury history, reasonable or not.
     
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    In order to hit a grand slam you have to have base runners on base. The Astros have the power hitters but not the on base type of hitters.
     
  9. raining threes

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    What injury history does Bregs have? He hurt his elbow this year and is playing through it and a couple of years ago pulled his hamstring. His injury history isn't a reason to not bring back Bregs. IMHO

    Now if you dont want to bring back Bregs or Tucker for that matter because you want to re-sign Framber, then I could get on board with this. If they choose to go this route, then they need to go out next off-season and get at least one big bat, maybe even two. I think they get one big bat and go young with Dezenzo/Whitcomb at 3B.
     
  10. Snake Diggit

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    That’s fine but then you better be prepared to find another option at 3B.

    if you put all these restrictions on offseason moves:
    Don’t sign any players in their late 30s
    Don’t trade away the farm
    Don’t give out huge contracts to star free agents

    Then you’re basically setting the expectation to roll with purely internal options.

    Just like we saw at the deadline, the expanded playoff means almost every team will go into the offseason expecting to compete. That means very high prices on free agents and trade targets.
     
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    All teams have a vast amount of casual fans. I was saying that most here, on this forum, are not casual fans.
     
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  12. Snake Diggit

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    I was looking at Astros hitters splits and saw some notable difference in 2024 vs career splits for some players:

    Obviously McCormick has had a dismal year. He came into the season as an average producer against righties but an elite hitter (on par with Tucker, Alvarez, and Altuve) against lefties. He’s been unplayable against both this season.

    Yainer Diaz came into the season and an excellent producer against righties and a below average producer against lefties. This season he has been good (not elite) against both equally.

    Jon Singleton’s past samples and inconsistency make it hard to draw much from his career numbers, but coming into this season he’d been bad against RHP and average against lefties. This season he’s been good against righties and unplayable against lefties. His minor league track record suggest this years numbers are more indicative of what he is.

    Dubon has been above average against lefties before this season. Hes been bad against them this season.

    Caratini was average against righties in his careee but he’s been excellent against them this season. He’s bad against lefties both career and 2024.

    Altuve, Alvarez, and Tucker are badass against both. Pena is elite against lefties and average against righties. Meyers is bad against righties and above average against lefties. Dezenzo and Whitcomb don’t have enough ab in the majors to analyze. Dezenzo was better against righties in the minors. Whitcomb didn’t have pronounced splits in the minors.

    If Houston could count on McCormick to return to form and Dubon to hit lefties like he did before this season, they’d really just need a 3B who could hit at an above average clip (Whitcomb) and maybe a bench bat who crushes lefties.
     
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    I would add Bregman in here.

    He hits much better vs RHP than LHP which fits very well with a lineup that has Pena and Meyers.

    But it is strange that through 2021 he murdered LHP and was very good vs RHP. Since then he has been much better vs RHP than LHP. I wonder what changed?
     
  14. 13 in 33

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    The Astros generate plenty of traffic on the base paths. The issue is has been driving them in. When the bases are loaded, it seems a single has been the best case scenario (no slugging to speak of, imagine an extra base hit!). The most likely scenarios have been a grounder into a fielder's choice to score the run from third or an inning ending double play.
     
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    Ball not juiced anymore like it was
    2017 through 2019. Pops Bregman came along after that. 2020 too short of a sample and 2021 he missed 3 months with a torn hammy. 2022 through 2024 is the Bregs we have now. My guess is some of those balls he used to hit in the crawford box just aren’t carrying like that anymore. Perhaps the juiced balls helped him more against LHP.
     
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  16. raining threes

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    Agreed.

    Here's what I would do if I was in Brown's shoes.

    Trade for Robert, or another guy with Star level production.

    Sign a guy sign a guy like Canha to platoon with Singleton and Caratini at 1B. Caratini would be learning how to play 1B at a high level in ST. I would also start training Baez at 1B.

    Give Dezenzo/Whitcomb a shot at 3B and hopefully if they dont workout Matthews will.

    Re-sign Kikuchi and extend Framber.

    If these moves didn't workout then I would look to make moves at the deadline.
     
  17. lnchan

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    Then what's our excuse for grounding into 116 double plays...
     
  18. IdStrosfan

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    There is no doubt in my mind that this team will either need to bring back Bregman, or bring in another run producer.

    During the golden age of 2017- current, the most successful teams have had 5+ guys at 120 or better OPS+/wRC+ and fewer than 3 below 90.

    Of top 10 most PAs: 120+ / 90-
    2017: 7 / 1
    2018: 2 / 0
    2019: 7 / 2
    2020: 3 / 4
    2021: 5 / 2
    2022: 5 / 2
    2023: 6 / 2
    2024: 3*/ 3
    * in 2024 both Diaz and Bregman have been at that level for some time after poor starts, and could end up there by season's end.

    For 2025, Altuve, Yordan, Yainer, and Diaz project to be there, but who is that #5?
     
  19. lnchan

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    If we are to believe Dusty, he only played Chas against piss poor lefties.
     
  20. SamCassell

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    Robert has not offered star level production this season. He had one big year, in 23, and fell way way off this season. Not a plus defender, either.

    I'm not saying he can't come back to his previous level but it's hardly a guarantee that they'd be adding a productive player. And it would cost prospects.

    I think your idea of spending on Kikuchi and Framber is smart. Alonso would also be a good free agency target if they feel like spending the money. Clear upgrade at a position of need. He and Tucker were teammates in high school. I know he's hoping for $200m but I doubt he's getting that off a down year, for him.
     
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