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2024 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Apr 4, 2024.

  1. Nook

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    The short recovery time is what cost the Astros another WS title last year - we forget, but Valdez and Javier were pitching injured and not the same players. If not for that, the Astros would be defending champs. Credit to the Rangers for beating the Astros, but it is REALLY hard to not always repeat, but to go deep in the playoffs every single year - that's a lot of extra wear and tear on the players.
     
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  2. Nook

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    In all seriousness, I have concerns about how Brown will keep the organization all on the same page - but I have no concerns about him making a big move if possible. He has no problems swinging for the fences, and is confident in his ability to walk into any run down baseball field in Cuba or the Dominican and find a 16 year old that he can turn into a #3 starter in 4-5 years.
     
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  3. Wulaw Horn

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    Episode 69 of breathing orange fire is up- check it out. we talk trade deadline and why I would take a bunch of big swings if I was the Astros. A lot of the reason for that is basically what @Nook just said/ I trust this development staff and talent acquisition guys.
     
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  4. Houstunna

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    Adding a bat would be great.

    I said I wasn't *overly* worried about the offense, once Tucker returns.

    Astros main problem right now is mostly pitching -- mostly like, 90%.

    Most of the rotation is headed into a brick wall... head-on, no seat belt.
     
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  5. toby

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    OVERPAY for pitching . . . deal with what you can at first, but don't overpay at first base.
     
  6. raining threes

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    The pitching so far has held up better than most could dream of considering the injuries the rotation has had. But they really need to add another SP.
     
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  7. raining threes

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    It's going to take more hitting than that in the playoffs IMHO.
     
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    Hopefully Dana adds one more bat.
     
  9. IdStrosfan

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    Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but 2022 they had 4 star bats - Altuve, Alex, Alvarez, and Tucker that were 129 or better OPS+. Chas was 5th best @ 111. Pena was 6th best @ 102 and everyone else between 96 and 68 (Including 3 starters).

    5 star level bats, can win but 6+ would be even better.

    What this team does have is 11 @ 100 or better, buy only 3 of them are over 106. Bregman should continue to increase his to get a 4th guy up there but another 125+ guy would make this more probable W.S. run.
     
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  10. BlindHog

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    Loperfido headed for the big boy list. Can't wait to see if he can keep up when the pressure of the play-offs is part of the equation.
     
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    He has a ways to go. Big hole in his swing. He has a good future. I think he has to play really well to get starts in the playoffs.
     
  12. mvpcrossxover

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    can't deny that he's an athlete.

    dude was flying on the base paths for the triple.
     
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  13. IdStrosfan

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    Interesting thought.

    Catcher, 2b, 3b, ss, cf, rf, and dh/lf are set in stone.

    That leaves 5 players for 2 spots. (5 for 1 spot if Diaz is dh)

    I'm assuming Kessinger will be sent down when Tucker returns.

    1b: Singleton, Dubon, Loperfido, or Cabbage

    Lf: Dubon, McCormick, Loperfido, or Cabbage

    Part of the issue I noticed was that there are 3 hitters with great numbers (125+ wRC+/OPS+) and the rest of the roster is 106 or worse.

    I think to be a World Series worthy offense, this team needs at least 4 and preferably 5 hitters at 125+ and only 2 (preferably from from C, SS, and CF) who are under 100.

    Diaz 103
    Altuve 133
    Bregman 106
    Pena 103
    Alvarez 158
    Meyers 105
    Tucker 175

    Dubon 103
    Singleton 100
    Cabbage 79
    Loperfido 103
    McCormick 65

    So this team needs 1-2 more 125+ level hitters to meet those requirements and none of the bench guys look to be able to supply that. They are perfectly good to fill the bottom 5 spots, but not those top 4.

    You could say Alex is one, as he is 137 over the past 2 months and his slow start is such a known quantity that there is little to no chance he regresses in the 2nd half.

    Adding a big bat like Vladdy Jr, Walker, Alfonso, or J D. Martinez, etc will turn this lineup into an All time great one w/ 5 star hitters, all 9 at 100 or better, and a bench of 100 hitters as well.
     
  14. Wulaw Horn

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    I’ve said you need 6 bats that are dudes in the playoffs because half of them will get **** down and you need 3 guys going good to win a series. You could get by with 3 dudes- but they all better be hitting- and that’s really unlikely.
    Talked about this exact thing on the pod Monday- Astros offense can trot 9 guys out there every day above 100 ops + but it’s 3 stats and 6 a little average. Having no auto out is good for lineup depth and the 262 game war of attrition that is the playoffs- but I always expect average bats to disappear in the playoffs.
    Pena’s mvp x2 says maybe not- maybe it’s all dumbass luck.
     
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  15. Wulaw Horn

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    If Yainer starts hitting Hr’s he could be one again- there’s definitely upside there.
     
  16. IdStrosfan

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    Agreed on Yainer having the ability.

    But if they add a Dude ( Walker or Vladdy is like adding another Altuve level player while moving Singleton or Dubon to the bench) it's much better than hoping for Diaz to rise to his potential.
     
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  17. Snake Diggit

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    Yainer taking the next step would be huge. As would getting star production out of LF (whether its McCormick coming back to life or Loperfido getting established) and 1B (whether it’s Singleton miraculously getting to more HR or a trade). Meyers and Pena are almost certainly gonna float between 90-110 wRC+, and that’s fine given their defensive value, especially if they are hitting 7th/8th/9th.
     
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  18. Htown Stros

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    Almost every year there are guys who have no business hitting as well as they do during a playoff run. Adolis García became Barry Bonds last year. As you mentioned, Pena in 2022. Jorge Soler and Eddie Rosario carried the Braves offense to a title in 2021. Randy Arozarena in 2020.

    Having no auto outs increases the chance someone gets hot and can help carry the load along with Yordan and Altuve.
     
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  19. IdStrosfan

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    This is an excellent point. It's just hard to count on that.

    I still think adding a >125 level bat and hoping he performs within 90% of his level is a safer bet than a 100 level guy suddenly becoming 110+ in the playoffs.

    But I could see a guy like Diaz or Meyers etc. have a great postseason over an 11-20 game sample and be a huge surprise like Jeremy was in 2022.
     
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  20. deb4rockets

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    We've wasted millions on McConnell the past two years and Verlander this year. I just hope when McConnel finally does come back he is worth the money we're paying him and not a lesser version of what he used to be. I hope we let Verlander go after this year and sign a good young prospect without an injury history.
     
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