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2024 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rockets34Legend, May 1, 2023.

  1. raining threes

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    After going back and forth.

    Bring back the FA;s and add Sneed CB/S in FA

    Draft

    Legette
    Benson
    Payton Wilson
    Cole Bishop
    Dallin Holker

    Weapons for Stroud

    Young guys to fill out the secondary in FA/Draft.
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    I think they should draft the best people possible at the positions they need, while taking the free agency signings into account.

    Wild-ass concepts, I know.
     
  3. houstonstime

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    I see people keep saying the 23rd pick, but didn’t we go up another spot with the Buccs beating the Eagles and the Packers beating the Cowboys? I thought we would be at 21 or 22 no?
     
  4. Marshall Bryant

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    Those team that were beaten had identical 11-6 records and a worse strength of schedule. The last opportunity to go higher was eliminated with GB and TB winning which advances them to Division round losers at worst.
     
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    Ah, ok, I thought being division winners they were higher up the draft order but that actually makes more sense.. darn.
     
  6. Marshall Bryant

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    I considered raising the Receivers core (WR/TE) in the draft over other needs which we might do better upgrading in FA.
    Round 1 Legette
    Round 2 Spann-Ford

    Both would be considered reaches as a High 2 and High 3, but probably won't be there if we wait for our picks in those rounds.

    WR1 Nico Ryans
    WR2 Legette
    SR Tank Dell
    TE1 Schultz
    TE2 Spann-Ford

    Woods 25, Jordan 25, Metche 26, Hutchinson 27

    Jordan out of the backfield at times.

    We have the QB who can get the ball downfield or high point the ball.
     
  7. sydmill

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    I think the Texans need to do what they can to bring Greenard back. Thats what you do with homegrown guys so that the rest of the team knows they'll be taken care of if they produce. I think Greenard has benefited the most from WAJ so I am not ready to break the bank to bring him back but I think you offer him something in the $15-$18M range per. If he balks you franchise him or let him walk.
     
  8. astros123

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    I wouldnt give Greenard anything crazy just to keep him. If we let Rankins walk I wouldnt be too upset either. Id rather give all that money to Chris jones and draft another prospect

    ?? How much would you give Greenard? Giving him a huge contract just to keep him is how you doom your franchise. Hes had a injury history
     
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  9. sydmill

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    I agree that you take into consideration a players injury history in signing them. But you have to pay players that produce for you. Or you dont and see them walk to teams that are willing to invest in talent. I dont think you offer Greenard top 10 DE money but I think you probably get somewhere just outside of there after he led the team in sacks, tackles for a loss and qb hits. I dont think the team can afford a step back on their pass rush.
     
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    I wouldnt give him anything more than 15-17 million annually. Id give him 4/64 or somewhere in that range. Theres alot of good DE prospects in this years draft.

    Why would we take a step back if we pursue chris jones?
     
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  11. houstonstime

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    I love legette, but I would go DB or DL with 2nd round and grab Cade Stover (TE) with our Eagles pick in the 3rd. He can block, and has a lot of successful familiarity with CJ.
     
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    I don't know, but this sounds good.

    OVERALL

    Troy Franklin is a downfield burner with a little more savvy than you might expect from that archetype.

    Speed is the name of the game for Franklin. His first step or two doesn't blow you away, but he quickly kicks into high gear after that. Franklin has the top-end speed to outrun anybody down the field, and it's rare for him to get caught once he gets a step on someone.

    Franklin isn't just a speedster, though. He is a quick-footed and detailed route-runner. Franklin is constantly throwing different releases at defensive backs, making it difficult to get a read on him over the course of the game, even on repeated routes.

    Franklin also has a good understanding of how to attack and manipulate defensive backs, often attacking one shoulder before breaking out the other way. He is almost never running routes in a way that feels as if he is just going through the motions.

     
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  13. raining threes

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    I don't know if he's physical enough for his game to translate to the NFL.
     
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    People could say the same about Tank, but imagine two speedsters getting down field fast for CJ to throw deep to. Double Trouble.
     
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  15. Marshall Bryant

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    I imagine 3 along with Nico. All running precise routes for a QB who is super accurate and the check downs to Hands and YAC receivers who can high point the ball and get YAC. I see more TE in the backfield like Jordan did when Beck was hurt. I admit my fascination with Spann-Ford is 6'7" with super reach for jump balls who is willing to block, though not effective YET. I imagine 2 TE that can take the contested ball at the Goal line.

    Scouting Report: Strengths
    • Has extremely good, soft, natural hands. Consistently makes the clean catch.
    • Soft hands. Flashes good to very good tracking and overall body control to make catches outside of his frame.
    • Good strength and effort to run through arm tackles.
    • He’s very good in contested-catch situations, using his frame effectively to make plays facing the quarterback. Spann-Ford also shows a knack for high-pointing the ball, consistently outmuscling defensive backs.
    • Spann-Ford fights his way off the line of scrimmage against press coverage, showing quick, violent hands and good balance.
    • Knee-bend and technique are good and Spann-Ford shows decent power when his hands hit the target.

    Now Draft Buzz has him going in the 7th, but he's never there on PFF (99) with our 4th and rarely there with our 3rd. I assume Draft Buzz is still updating their projections to include 2023 performance.

    Of course I'm also grabbing Johnny Wilson Fl St (87) WR and also 6'7" if both are on the board.

    Scouting Report: Strengths
    • Elite "catch radius" with a formidable blend of frame and wingspan; capitalizes on mismatches, especially in red-zone situations.
    • "High-point" specialist with unmatched vertical prowess; his stride frequency paired with long strides translates to undeniable deep-ball threat capability.
    • Dynamic "RAC" (Run After Catch) asset; exhibits short-area burst and twitch, making him a nightmare for defenders in open space.
    • Elite athletic skills -- Made Bruce Feldman's 2023 'Freaks List' at number 28. He wrote: "At almost 6 feet 7, 239 pounds, he has 36-inch arms, 10 1/4 inch hands and a standing reach of 8-10. He also has a 35.5 inch vertical and a 10-5 broad jump. In games, he’s topped out at 21.23 MPH with a max acceleration of 5.26 m/s and has a max deceleration of -7.21 m/s."
    • Balances like a "bell-cow back"; his contact balance and drive consistently see him power through arm tackles and churn extra yards.
    • Master of the aerial game; whether stretching the field or toe-tapping on the sideline, he shows elite spatial awareness and ball skills.
    • "Contested-catch" maestro; his ability to adjust mid-air, combined with his frame, makes him the go-to target on 50/50 balls.
    • Deceptive and agile at stem breaks; uses his overwhelming length to shed press coverage and create windows of separation.
    • Relentless in the blocking game; harnesses his physical gifts with an understanding of leverage, often pancaking DBs to spring big plays.
     
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  17. raining threes

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    Different type players. Franklin is a more linear type player. Tank is more sudden in his movements.

    The more I'm looking at WR's I'm liking Anias Smith in the 4th as another Tank
     
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  18. Qan

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    Troy Franklin seems like a good fit with Nico and Tank. CJ can place the ball perfectly where he can easily catch it. Too many good speed reciever this year...need to grab one.
     
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  19. Sooty

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    - unpolished player in terms of route running (most catches on out routes, slants, verticals)
    - fragile frame (won’t be a physical catcher)
    - explosive
    - top 3 in country: 8 catches over 40 yards
    - one of only two receivers with over 1300 yards and 14TDs at least (Nabers the other)
    - gets down the field and makes a play

    like MVS but a better catcher and higher ceiling.
     
  20. houstonstime

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    Franklin of Legette are my top 2. Brian Thomas is #3, I think Thomas is good but too redundant with Nico, want more speed.
     
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