I honestly don't mind the talk because it's always fun to look back and see who we thought would be the top 10. Most of the time, it changes. I believe two of the top 10 from last year went undrafted while one dropped to the second round. If you look back at the 2022 draft, it's worst than that. It just lets you know how much can change in a year.
https://theathletic.com/4477888/2023/05/02/nfl-mock-draft-2024-caleb-williams/ This is basically a watch list of 32 intriguing prospects eligible for the 2024 NFL Draft. It just happens to be in a mock draft format. And if you don’t like the draft order, then blame Vegas, because I used the inverse order of the updated Super Bowl odds. 1. Arizona Cardinals: Caleb Williams, QB, USC Although there are financial ramifications with Kyler Murray’s contract, the Cardinals won’t be passing on a quarterback if they are indeed picking No. 1 next April. Based on his 2022 tape, Williams is worth the top pick — NFL scouts believe he would have been the No. 1 selection this past draft, had he been eligible. 2. Arizona Cardinals (via HOU): Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State Not only would Harrison have been the easy WR1 in the 2023 NFL Draft, but also he would have competed with Will Anderson Jr. to be the first non-quarterback selected. He has small-man athleticism in a big man’s frame and the detailed savvy you’d expect of Marvin Harrison’s kid. 3. Indianapolis Colts: Olu Fashanu, LT, Penn State 4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina With 45 total touchdowns last season, Maye not only put himself on the NFL radar, but he also jumped near the top of the list. With his size, arm and athleticism, he has skills comparable to those of Justin Herbert. 5. Tennessee Titans: Dallas Turner, edge, Alabama 6. Washington Commanders: Quinn Ewers, QB, Texas Only a redshirt sophomore (plus he skipped his senior year of high school), Ewers is still very young in several areas. But he has the top-shelf arm talent to make wow plays look routine. If the mental development catches up to his physical skills, Ewers will be an easy top-10 pick. 7. New England Patriots: Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia 8. Atlanta Falcons: Jared Verse, edge, Florida State 9. Los Angeles Rams: Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama 10. Pittsburgh Steelers: Maason Smith, DL, LSU 11. Chicago Bears (via CAR): J.T. Tuimoloau, edge, Ohio State 12. Seattle Seahawks: Donovan Jackson, G, Ohio State 13. Green Bay Packers: JC Latham, OT, Alabama 14. Chicago Bears: Christian Mahogany, G, Boston College 15. Las Vegas Raiders: J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan 16. Denver Broncos: Kalen King, CB, Penn State 17. New York Giants: Chop Robinson, edge, Penn State 18. Minnesota Vikings: Jer’Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois 19. New Orleans Saints: Malik Nabers, WR, LSU 20. Houston Texans (via CLE): Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame In Alt and Blake Fisher, Notre Dame has a pair of offensive tackles to keep on the radar for next year’s draft class. Alt is a former high school tight end, and his father, John, was an offensive lineman and first-round pick of the Chiefs in 1984. 21. Jacksonville Jaguars: Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa 22. Baltimore Ravens: Kris Jenkins, DT, Michigan 23. Miami Dolphins: Michael Penix Jr., QB, Washington 24. Los Angeles Chargers: J.T. Sanders, TE, Texas 25. Detroit Lions: Michael Hall Jr., DT, Ohio State 26. Dallas Cowboys: Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson 27. New York Jets: Graham Barton, OT/G, Duke 28. Cincinnati Bengals: Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State 29. San Francisco 49ers: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona 30. Buffalo Bills: Laiatu Latu, edge, UCLA 31. Philadelphia Eagles: D.J. James, CB, Auburn 32. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
Top 10-15 qb in this system would mean winning 12 games a year and putting Justin Herbert numbers while still being under 25. You take that and build the defense.
That’s a stretch. Herbert is a top 5 QB in the league, and 12 wins is going to take a while. If they get there
Not a stretch at all. You're the one that said 10-15 top qb. Unless you were saying it as an insult to CJ. Just Look at the numbers put this year by (Herbert) and the history of this offense when a qb's arm doesn't fall off. 10-15 qb + Saleh's/ Ryans defense will get you 12 wins. Need a 1 receiver.
Herbert is not a 10-15 qb. Not saying it as insult, I don’t think Stroud hits that level immediately and that’s probably more his high side
