im going to break some news to you: Whoever the dems nominate, even if it’s a blue dog that conservatives praise like Eric Adams or Joe Manchin (lol), he’ll be painted as a communist and the worst candidate ever before the general begins and the usual cats on here will all buy in.
trumpers - "dems need to move on from trump. they will never win as long as they keep obsessing over him" also trumpers - "the 2020 election was stolen from trump. the real insurrection happened november 2nd, not january 6th. biden is not the legitimate president. trump 2024."
Both parties continue to muster up a worse candidate than the previous election. Case in point: Reagan>GHWB>GWB>Trump B Clinton>Obama>Biden What you're failing to acknowledge is Trump, Hillary and Biden should have never been a consideration in the first place.
You brought him up as an equitable comparable to Kamala. I clearly stated the VERY BRIEF but obvious reasons about why he was terrible, but there is no reason given for Kamala which makes my point for me about so-called Independents who are sometimes swing voters in states like Florida, and how they are frustrating for the Democratic party for obvious reasons. So then tell me what 50-50 tie breaker vote she voted for was a disappointment to you. Were you also as disappointed with Joe Manchin since he would be included in basically any vote she takes?? Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are the key votes in the Senate. Kamala is the formality vote which is why exactly nobody in the media covers her 50-50 voting history. The bold part proves my point. I haven't been following anything... but hell do I have an opinion about it. I just...can't. I'm not going to argue about beaches with you. Look up any list of best beaches in North America and they basically all disagree with you. Yes old people move from the NE to retire there, but they sure as hell don't do it because Ron DeSantis is governor and not Gillum. You especially can't say this when 46 to 49% of your state consistently votes Democrat. Obviously a good chunk of your state disagree with you. You can call it what you want but there is a significant amount of the country that does not believe the people in DC have their backs. I'm sorry but every time you do the homework to find out why SOOO many people actually don't vote in this country, the reasons almost always have some form of identity glaring through. The reason why Virginia went Red last week was an identity issue. The reason why NJ was so close was an identity issue. The Republicans are going to continue to define Democrats to voters like yourself, and you'll continue to believe them if the Democrats do not have their own message breaking through. They break through to you personally... by connecting to you personally.... IDENTITY POLITICS. That's all politics are in the end. It sounds so sanctimonious when someone like yourself goes on and on about how Democrats are stuck on identity politics when you vote for Republicans which define Democrats to you via Identity Politics.
I acknowledge this is antidotal, but the ONLY time I hear about Trump these days is from hardcore liberals. The Republicans are too busy b****ing about Biden and Harris. Both of these events must happen for Trump to win; A powerful and wealthy group must endorse him on the back end AND liberals will need to hyperventilate about him non stop. Twitter and MSM was Trumps bread and butter and he is cut off. Those wealthy private donors do not need Trump anymore. The government has NO choice but to print print print, regardless of party affiliation. TARP was 800 billion. This latest infrastructure bill was 1.1T and nobody batted an eye. Those who decide who can run for President do not have stomach for a loose cannon like Trump again. Biden is the perfect candidate. He is the opposite of Trump. He is completely clueless what is going on and the government is flowing along as smoothly as it can. Biden is proof just how useless a president is provide the President is not up causing intentional massive chaos.
This is 2015-16 thinking. The Trump genie is out of the bottle. Not giving him brainshare isn't a remedy anymore. The virus is already loose on the body politic. Trump is the #1 choice of 60% of Republicans for 2024. Liberals may be the only ones talking about him, but conservatives still support and choose him in overwhelming numbers, and that is not liberals' fault. Again, this isn't 2015-16. Trump needs no one's endorsement or blessing. The MSM could legit blackball him 100% starting today and it wouldn't stop his nomination.
There is a group that still posts up at the intersection of FM 1488 and FM 2978 nearly every weekend with trumpybear flags. There's a guy there selling the stuff. Just yesterday, saw a truck in that same area with a "F*** Biden" flag on one side of the bed and a "Trump...f*** your feelings" flag on the other side. They're still out there and they're still quite loud and obnoxious.
Will we be able to avoid a re-run of 2020? https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3537421-will-we-be-able-to-avoid-a-re-run-of-2020/ excerpt: 2024 is likely to be an extremely unusual presidential campaign. The two frontrunners for their parties’ nominations, Joe Biden and Donald Trump, are the most unpopular figures in American politics. more at the link
Five under-the-radar Democrats who could run for president in 2024 https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...emocrats-who-could-run-for-president-in-2024/
Americans may get the one presidential race the country doesn't want in 2024 https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/12/politics/biden-trump-polling-2024-race-analysis/index.html
Any Democratic is better than any Republican who supported Trump's madness and lies for four years. That eliminates all but about 10 of the Republicans, and the party has turned on those who didn't plead the fifth or lie about the election and about the coup. It's a party of hate, propaganda, and lies now. If the new Q loving Trump doesn't run, then those who kissed his ass will become hypocrites in their stance in debates, just to act like they are different, but will do so with lies and propaganda. You know, guys like good ole lying Ted and Right Wing so called White Christan DeSantis. They still have stains on their lips from kissing that orange ass.
he’s been getting a lot of buzz the past couple of months I can see him winning a primary over someone like Pete who gets mentioned a lot
Biden pushes South Carolina as first primary state, elevates Georgia and Michigan The tectonic decision to radically remake his party’s presidential nominating calendar for 2024 came as a shock to party officials and state leaders who had been lobbying hard to gain a place in the early calendar https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/01/2024-primaries-biden-democrats/ excerpt: President Biden has asked leaders of the Democratic National Committee to make South Carolina the nation’s first primary state, followed by New Hampshire and Nevada a week later, and hold subsequent weekly primaries in Georgia and Michigan, according to Democrats briefed on the plans. The tectonic decision to remake his party’s presidential nominating calendar for 2024 came as a shock to party officials and state leaders who had been lobbying hard in recent weeks to gain a place in the early calendar, which historically attracts millions of dollars in candidate spending and attention. While many in the party had long anticipated changes, the specific order Biden proposed had generated little if any chatter in Democratic circles. Much of the talk among Democrats had not focused much on either South Carolina going first or Georgia joining the early mix. The proposal is likely to win approval from the Democratic officials, given the support from the leader of the party. By breaking with decades of tradition, Biden’s move is meant to signal his party’s commitment to elevating more variety — demographic, geographic and economic — in the early nominating process. Iowa, a largely White state that historically held the nation’s first Democratic caucus and experienced embarrassing problems tabulating results in 2020, would have no early role in the Biden plan. “We must ensure that voters of color have a voice in choosing our nominee much earlier in the process and throughout the entire early window,” Biden wrote in a letter to members of the Rules and Bylaws Committee that was delivered Thursday evening, as members planned to meet for dinner. “As I said in February 2020, you cannot be the Democratic nominee and win a general election unless you have overwhelming support from voters of color — and that includes Black, Brown and Asian American & Pacific Islander voters.” The new calendar would run through states that were pivotal to Biden’s victory in the 2020 nominating fight and general election, suggesting he is serious about following through on his public statements about intending to seek reelection. In the Thursday letter, Biden told fellow Democrats that he did not want to bind the party to the same calendar in 2028. “The Rules and Bylaws Committee should review the calendar every four years, to ensure that it continues to reflect the values and diversity of our party and our country,” he wrote. The plan is expected to face resistance from some of the affected states. Democrats in New Hampshire said Thursday night that they would not abide Biden’s wishes. New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a Republican, has also said he would follow state law and hold his state’s primary a week before any other. more at the link
I think every state is trying to be first. I know in MN there is a push by the Democratic governor to get MN to be the first. The State Republicans agree also. That said making MN the first would be an easy change as we're just up I-35 from IA.
