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2024 Astros Minor League Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Nov 6, 2023.

  1. panamamyers

    panamamyers Member

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    Don't you have to factor in the 60 million he already got for 2023 and 2024? So 8 years and 210 million after 2022.
     
  2. vince

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    I think the Astros would jump on a 4 year deal all day long. A 4 year deal for about 120 million 30 million per season is good value. It shows loyalty to a player and commitment by the player.

    But I think Bregman is perhaps going to be looking for a 6-7 year deal in the range of 160-175 million. And because of his track record he may get more than that.

    I think that Tucker should be priority #1. He has a chance of being amongst the best Astro of all time, because he’s been inkling to break into the perennial MVP candidates for the next decade. I think he may be the first 250 - 300 million Astros contract player
     
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  3. tellitlikeitis

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  4. Buck Turgidson

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    What's his story?
     
  5. IdStrosfan

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    Yes.

    He would have been 28 years old and got 30.6 bWAR during his controllable seasons.

    Trea Turner : 11 /$300 at age 30 after 29.9 bWAR.

    Xander Bogaerts: 11 /$280M at age 30 after 22.6 during controllable years + 12.5 during 3 yrs of the extension he opted out of.

    Carlos Correa got 6 / $200M at 28 after 34.1 during controllable seasons + 1.4 during 1 yr @ $35M he opted out of. This was after medicals revealed an issue that is likely to shorten his career and/or hamper his production earlier than usual.

    Dansby Swanson got 7 / $177M at age 29 w/ 14.6 bWAR during controllable seasons.

    The average: (Alex)
    Age: 29.25 (28.0)
    bWAR/yr: 3.97 (5.1)
    Yrs: 8.75
    Total: $239.25M
    AAV: $27.34M

    *I did not count partial seasons prior to the FA clock starting as an additional season because it would have been very complicated to calculate a different time period for each player. It was easier to just say 6 yrs (7 for super 2) for each player.

    Alex was younger and had more bWAR per season entering that FA period than the average of those 4 players he would have been competing with for a contract.

    I think he could have expected at least 9 yrs and $250M which is just the the average rounded up.
     
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  6. Buck Turgidson

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    My main takeaway from the past couple of pages is that Alex Bregman is still an Astros Minor Leaguer
     
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  8. IdStrosfan

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    Getting Dezenzo ready to compete for the 2025 3b (or 1b) spot in spring training.
     
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  9. Nook

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    The only surplus value Pena has IMO is his salary being low. Once that number gets high, you move on and trade him. He is solid but replaceable and some team will overpay him.

    Brice Matthews has to keep this up longer before we know where his career is headed - but assuming he keeps hitting, he will project as a vastly better hitter than Pena. Matthews at this point can play SS and do a good job.

    A lot of people keep talking about needing to move Altuve to DH..... First, defensively he has been better than he has in at least 2-3 years. He has been average at the position and he is 34. With proper positioning, a player can play passable defense at 2nd longer than most people realize. So I am not really all that worried about second base.
     
  10. tellitlikeitis

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    14th round pick last year from Louisiana-Lafayette. Struggled with command in college but was also adept at missing bats. Fastball, slider, changeup.
     
  11. Nook

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    This is all true - but he still has an OPS+ of 130 and while his bat has slipped some the last 30+ games, his play at second has improved.

    At some point Altuve will really slow down how much he contributes - but he has proven the rate player that can re-invent himself and finds different ways to contribute.
     
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    Dezenzo has become a very underrated prospect, IMO.
     
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  13. Nook

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    Why do you say that. He is coming off a significant injury and did not hit for power in AA with middling ratios. I am taking his promotion to AAA as a good sign that the front office is confident he will rake in Sugar Land but the AA numbers and public reports from the last 4 months don’t really paint him as a top prospect.
     
  15. tellitlikeitis

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    Dezenzo's stint in Corpus this year seemed like an extended rehab assignment. Other than that, I suppose the org thought he did enough in AA.
     
  16. IdStrosfan

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    For me it's pretty simple.

    1) It's time to start working to conserve Altuve's legs. 2029 will thank us.

    2) He really shouldn't be but Dubon is one of the 9 best position players on this team. His best position is 2b.

    3) Yordan can and wants to play LF, the team has not been able to find production from LF, and Yordan looks to be healthier and moving better than he has in the past.

    At least it feels simple to me.
     
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  17. Nook

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    I could be wrong - but I expect Alvarez to be a full time DH before Altuve is.

    I do think that Altuve gets worn down, so I am fine with him DHing some to save his knees.

    Alvarez is almost a foot taller and 85 lbs heavier than Altuve.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    If you're worried about knees, I'm not sure why you'd pick Altuve over Alvarez.

    That said, I see no problem with Altuve DH'ing most of the fewish games that Alvarez is in LF
     
  19. IdStrosfan

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    To clarify I wasn't suggesting Altuve should be a fulltime DH which would make Dubon a full time 2b.

    I was simply giving my reasoning why they should be playing him at DH more often.

    And anytime the entire starting infield, Dubon, and Yordan all start at home, Altuve should be DH before Dubon is put in the OF. Unless there is another injury/fatigue concern, of course.

    If those 3 players all started at 2b, LF, and DH that is the position choices I prefer unless LF is huge.
     
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  20. The Beard

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    Dubon has a 685 OPS this year and 681 for his career

    He is a really good utility guy, but unfortunately he isn't more than that
     
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