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2024 Astros Minor League Thread

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  1. Htown Legend

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  2. Snake Diggit

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    Matthews has 15 HR and 26 SB in 61 games this year. Factor in that for at least a handful of those games he was injured or still recovering from injury, and that’s an extremely impressive first full pro season. 30/30 numbers from a guy who can play SS or 3B is a potential superstar. With as raw as he was coming in he may have a better chance than most prospects to be able to fix his strikeout issues.
     
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  3. Snake Diggit

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    I feel comfortable saying this: Brice Matthews is the 3rd best SS prospect Houston has had in the last 15 years, after Correa and Bregman. Going back further, I can only think of Zobrist and Thon who might’ve been better.
     
  4. Snake Diggit

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    Looking at Matthews compared to past SS prospects prompted me to look at fangraphs data since 2006 across all positions. Here’s my Top 5 Astros prospects of the last 20 years by position:

    C:
    1. Jason Castro 2009
    2. JR Towles 2007
    3. Yainer Diaz 2022
    4. Korey Lee 2021
    5. Garrett Stubbs 2016

    1B:
    1. AJ Reed 2015
    2. Jon Singleton 2012
    3. Seth Beer 2019
    4. Tyler White 2015
    5. Telvin Nash 2014

    2B:
    1. Jose Altuve 2011
    2. Enrique Hernandez 2013
    3. Tony Kemp 2015
    4. Enmanuel Valdez 2022
    5. Josh Rojas 2019

    SS:
    1. Carlos Correa 2015
    2. Alex Bregman 2016
    3. Brice Matthews 2023
    4. Jonathan Villar 2011
    5. Ben Zobrist 2006

    3B:
    1. Colin Moran 2014
    2. JD Davis 2016
    3. Abraham Toro 2019
    4. Chris Johnson 2008
    5. Zach Dezenzo 2023

    RF:
    1. Kyle Tucker 2017
    2. Hunter Pence 2006
    3. Domingo Santana 2013
    4. Ramon Laureano 2016
    5. Teoscar Hernandez 2016

    CF:
    1. George Springer 2013
    2. Delino DeShields Jr 2014
    3. Jacob Melton 2024
    4. Drew Gilbert 2023
    5. Derek Fisher 2016

    LF:
    1. Yordan Alvarez 2018
    2. JD Martinez 2011
    3. Preston Tucker 2013
    4. Justin Dirden 2022
    5. Jason Martin 2017

    Honorable Mention:
    C: Max Stassi, Walker Janek
    IF: Nolan Fontana, Shay Whitcomb, Jack Mayfield, Tommy Manzella, Jio Mier, Jonathan Arauz, Jeremy Pena, Taylor Jones, Drew Sutton, Will Wagner
    OF: Brian Bogusevic, Brandon Barnes, Joey Loperfido, Chas McCormick, Zach Cole, Brett Phillips, Ronnie Dawson, Myles Straw, Pedro Leon, Andrew Aplin, Jon Kemmer, Austin Wates, Jake Goebbert

    The amount of talent the came thru Corpus in 2016 is insane.
     
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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    One caveat: Bregman was a SS at LSU, yes, and he played SS and 3B in the minors, but I'm not sure he was ever considered a SS (outside of emergency) by the Stros.

    eta: Thanks for the Telvin Nash mention, and I lol'd at JR the Rodeo Clown as your #2 catcher :)
     
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    I didn't realize Matthews was a hometown boy. That makes it even more awesome if he becomes a superstar.
     
  7. Snake Diggit

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    I don’t remember Bregman being labeled as a 3B prior to being called up. All the stuff I read from before the draft and during his time in the minors never dinged his defense at SS. But yeah I don’t think he could be a SS now.

    Towles had a 7 RBI game when he first came up. I thought he was going to be badass. His MLB numbers are weird; low low k rates and ok walk rates and ISO but insanely low BABIP.
     
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  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Zobrist was never really a SS, although he did try to play there for a bit in MLB.

    Thon would have been a superstar. He's way up on the list of Astros "couldabeens"
     
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    After a couple of months I thought Meluskey would be the Astros catcher for a decade.
     
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    From MLB.com before the draft:

    Because of his size, tools and aggressive nature at the plate, he regularly gets compared to Dustin Pedroia. Like Pedroia, he appeared to be a college shortstop headed for second base in pro ball, but Bregman has looked better defensively this spring and may be able to stick at short. His arm and instincts allow him to make plays there, and he shows range to both sides.

    Those Altuve and Correa guys were kind of blocking him up the middle, so I assume 3B was the Stros plan all along. Fangraphs mentioned he could end up in LF, if not 3B.

    https://blogs.fangraphs.com/scouting-astros-call-up-alex-bregman/
     
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    Andujar Cedeno was highly-regarded as well
     
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    #1 overall MLB prospect

    Oops.
     
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    I am guessing we will be seeing Matthews in the AFL this year.
     
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    Ooh good topic. My guesses for AFL options this year:

    C: Miguel Palma, John Garcia, Luis Encarnacion
    IF: Brice Matthews, Narbe Cruz, Anthony Sherwin
    OF: Zach Cole, Yamal Encarnacion, Rolando Espinosa
     
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    They rarely send the top prospects.

    I would guess no Brice. But I may be wrong under Dana.

    Last year was:

    Blubaugh
    Dezenzo
    Kenny Corona
    Guilfoil
    and blah blah blah

    So maybe this year is also nice?
     
  16. tellitlikeitis

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    Palma for whatever reason cannot seem to stay healthy. But back on topic, he'd be a good pick to go to the desert.

    Miguel Palma
    Tommy Sacco
    Narbe Cruz (he's steadily improved each season, could be on breakout watch next year)
    Zach Cole (Quincy Hamilton could fit here too)
    James Hicks
    Jose Fleury
    Logan VanWey

    I wouldn't rule out Brice Matthews either considering the time he's missed this year.
     
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  17. Buck Turgidson

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    He's also not a very good catcher.
     
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    What about James Mouton?

    PCL MVP?
     
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    Thon broke in w/ the Angels and was traded to the Astros as an MLBer.
     

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