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2023 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 10, 2023.

  1. HeyBudLetsParty

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    Whoever the area scout was, no GM is scouting players into the 5th round much less 21st
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Not Click for betting his career on Meyers. Luhnow gets the credit. Click gets credit for Yanker Diaz, Montero, and Dirden if he ever comes up.
     
  3. noppeper

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    His approach at the plate has been Bregman-esque so far. Hope he keeps taking quality at bats like this all season long, as it would be a huge boost to this club.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    How about neither of you get credit for ****ing nothing yet?

    Let's talk again at the end of May or June?
     
  5. raining threes

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    I would say the guy that drafted him. Many of the developmental guys were still around after Luhnow left.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    For Chas, Luhnow got credit when "the catch" happened.
     
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  7. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I'm not expecting 750, but I wouldn't be surprised. It's not like he whiffs a lot. He's always made contact. He's just flipped the switch this season by hitting over the ball vs under the ball. Look at his GB/FB numbers so far versus prior years. They almost directly correlate with his OPS.

    "At the Astros’ behest, Dubón added 15 pounds this offseason in hopes of increasing his exit velocities and generating better results. His first few regular-season games featured far too many lazy fly balls to shallow center field or the pull side.

    Dubón sought counsel from both Yordan Alvarez and Michael Brantley, who noticed the barrel of his bat dropping during his swing, preventing Dubón from staying on top of the baseball. The adjustment is minor, but does appear to be making a difference.
    Dubón entered Monday’s game averaging a 90.1 mph exit velocity on his batted balls, nearly five miles per hour harder than his career mark. Three of the five balls he struck on Monday were 91 mph or harder.

    Dubón has already cut his career flyball rate nearly in half — from 26.3 percent to 13.6 percent. Provided he can continue his swing adjustment, more line drive contact should be in store."
     
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  8. Amshirvani

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    shouldn’t this have come from the hitting coach and not Alvarez/Brantley
     
  9. Wulaw Horn

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    Eh- that’s just baseball man. Guys are always helping each other with swings or grips on different pitchers. That’s a good clubhouse is all.
     
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  10. Pipedream

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    Not too bad a comparison, he's already shown improvement in making contact:
    162 game averages (career)
    Chas McCormick: .252/.329/.429, 21HR, 70RBI, 2.0oWAR, 0.6dWAR
    Bryan Reynolds: .283/.361/.488, 25HR 81RBI, 4.8oWAR, -0.3dWAR

    Also, not that I am happy with the slow start, but I think that its a good thing that the media is taking the spotlight off the team and their quest to repeat. This all has a feeling of "slumbering giant" as opposed to sky is falling.
     
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  11. Joe Joe

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    I hope he has improved his line drive rate. His current rate is unsustainable (i.e., I don't think he's the greatest line drive hitter ever), but hoping he can keep it above average. He should be near unplayable if his line drive rate falls to what it was last year.
     
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  12. Marshall Bryant

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    I won't make this a habit. I promise.

    3. OBP1 Dubon 395
    4. OBP2 McCormick 370
    1. OPS1 Tucker* 1051
    2. OPS2 Alvarez* 995
    5. SLG1 Julks 441
    6. SLG2 Pena 393
    7. OBP3 Abreu 339
    8. OBP4 Bregman 339
    9. OBP5 MALDONADO 281

    10. OBP Diaz 267
    11. OBP Hensley 212
    12. OBP Meyers 176
    13 OBP Salazar* 000
     
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  13. ima_drummer2k

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    Astros 2022* through 13 games:
    • Runs scored : 44
    • Runs allowed: 52
    • Team AVG: .200
    • Team HRs: 14
    • Record: 6-7
    Astros 2023 through 13 games:
    • Runs scored: 66
    • Runs allowed: 53
    • Team AVG: .256
    • Team HRs: 14
    • Record: 6-7


    *The Astros won the World Series in 2022
     
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  14. Snake Diggit

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    Way too early potential trade target list:

    C: Salvador Perez*, Reese McGuire
    IF: Adam Frazier*, Tony Kemp, CJ Cron
    OF: Adam Duvall*, Austin Meadows*, Ramon Laureano, Victor Robles, Cody Bellinger, Bryan Reynolds*, Andrew McCutcheon*, Kris Bryant*, Charlie Blackmon, Jurickson Profar
    SP: Chris Sale*, Nick Pivetta, Kyle Gibson, Zack Greinke, Brad Keller, Marcus Stroman*, German Marquez*
    RP: Kenley Jansen*, Aroldis Chapman, Amir Garrett, Scott Barlow*, Michael Fulmer*, Brent Suter, Brad Hand*

    I asterisked the guys I think Houston might target.

    2 way too early hypothetical trades:
    Astros get:
    SP German Marquez
    RP Brad Hand

    Rockies get:
    SP Jose Urquidy
    OF Jake Meyers
    RHP Misael Tamarez

    Astros get:
    C Salvador Perez
    RP Scott Barlow
    $5M

    Royals get:
    RHP Spencer Arrighetti
    RHP Ronel Blanco
     
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  15. JeeberD

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    This is the FOURTH consecutive season that the Astros have been 6-7 after 13 games. If the formula works, why mess with it?
     
  16. SWTsig

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    The problem w the new and improved Dubon is if he can maintain that increased strength over the course of a full season when his weight training regiment will likely take a huge hit. It’s a lot easier to gain muscle mass when you can focus almost exclusively on working out and recovery but he won’t have that luxury during the season.

    I know **** about f*** when it comes to proper strength training but guys w body types like Dubon usually have to work pretty damn hard to maintain significant muscle mass gains. It’ll be interesting to see if he’s still +15 lbs in July and August.
     
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  17. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    He actually gained weight during the season last year. I bet it probably had an effect on his hitting since he was swinging with a different body. He mentioned he was eating like crazy and didn't want to see food any more. He's just not a big eater.

    Crazy to think he weighed less than Altuve when he came.
     
  18. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I have probably been Dubon's biggest defender on this board even with his horrendous offense last year. The guy is a plus defender in the 2 hardest defensive positions. How many people can plays above average defense at center field and shortstop? The only position he hasn't played is first and catcher, and has been average to well above average in all the positions. So even if his offense regresses, he isn't going anywhere until his contract is up. If he continues to hit this well, he will cost tons in arbitration.
     
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  19. Kemahkeith

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    This is how you maintain weight during the season.

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