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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. Fulgore

    Fulgore Member

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    Thats actually a good comparison for him. I think CJ’s arm is a bit stronger
     
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    CJ has a stronger arm and is a bit more mobile, but isn’t a comfortable runner at this point. They really play very similarly and you can definitely win with that, but I question what the upside is for your team because a Goff type doesn’t necessarily elevate a team beyond its talent lvl.
     
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  3. Fulgore

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    I was a Stroud guy after the rose bowl but after watching Bryce his junior year I changed my mind quickly.
     
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    I think if you go QB with the first pick, I'd be happy with a WR or TE.

    If not QB, best player available on offense or defense. With the possibility of them both being defensive players.
     
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  6. Commodore

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    I’d definitely take Trey Lance for a 2nd. That’s super cheap, given his upside. Although it is concerning that no-namers are flourishing in the 49ers offense yet Lance can’t.

    I’d much rather do that deal than burn the top overall pick on an unimpressive QB in a year where there’s no elite QBs.
     
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  8. J.R.

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    He must of got some side $$ deals to "convince" to come to the NFL.
     
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  10. red5rocket

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    Jared Goff w/ a stronger arm, I’d like. Goff is so underrated. Yes, he needs to be under the right system but you can say that about every QB.
     
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  11. J.R.

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    Trey Lance is damaged diminished goods. I’ll give a 4th at best. 3rd if I’m feeling generous. ;)

    “He was the third overall pick and they traded a fortune to get him. You’re not getting him for a 3rd/4th.”
    OK. Next. :) Their fault they overpaid. Not compensating them for their overpay/where he was drafted.

    Lance:
    2018: 2 games (1 total pass attempt)
    2019: 16 games (287 PA)
    2020: 1 game (30 PA)
    2021: 6 games (2 starts; 71 PA)
    2022: 2 games (2 starts; 31 PA)
    5 starts, 132 PA last 3 years

    Only 2 years left(+ 5th year option?) on his rookie deal.

    First 3 starts:
    Lance: 1-2 (L AZ 17-10; W HOU 23-7; L CHI 19-10); 44-80(55%); 7.5 Y/A; 605 yards; 2 TD 3 INT; 72.1 rating
    Purdy: 3-0 (W TB 35-7; W SEA 21-13; W WSH 37-20) 48-69(69.5%); 9.2 Y/A; 636 yards; 6 TD 1 INT; 121.4 rating

    Shanahan QBs:
    2017: 5-0 Jimmy G; 1-4 C.J. Beathard; 0-6 Brian Hoyer
    2018: 1-2 Jimmy G; 3-5 Nick Mullens; 0-5 C.J. Beathard
    2019: 13-3 Jimmy G
    2020: 3-3 Jimmy G; 1-1 C.J. Beathard; 2-6 Nick Mullens
    2021: 9-6 Jimmy G; 1-1 Trey Lance
    2022: 7-3 Jimmy G; 3-0 Brock Purdy; 1-1 Trey Lance

    Speaking of, Jimmothy is a free agent. ;)
    (…and drafted by NE/Caserio)

    Shootin’ the sh’t…
    3rd for Baby Carr
    4th/5th for Trey
    5th/6th for Love
    6th/7th for Zach
    (Not saying he’s anything special but hell, they could’ve got a free look at Baker when put on waivers)

    I can get these guys for “free” (no compensation, other than their salary & potential competition for their service)

    Potential Free Agents
    Tom Brady
    Lamar Jackson
    Jimmy Garoppolo
    Daniel Jones
    Geno Smith
    Gardner Minshew
    Baker Mayfield
    Taylor Heinicke
    Jacoby Brissett
    Mike White
    Sam Darnold
    Teddy Bridgewater
    Andy Dalton
    Cooper Rush
    Case Keenum
    Tyler Huntley (RFA)
    Blaine Gabbert
    Phillip Walker (RFA)
    Jarrett Stidham
    Drew Lock
    Chad Henne
    Jeff Driskel
    Kyle Allen
    Mason Rudolph
    Nick Mullens
    Brandon Allen
    C.J. Beathard
    Chase Daniel
    Tim Boyle
    David Blough
    Trace McSorley
    Brett Rypien (RFA)
    John Wolford (RFA)
    Bryce Perkins (RFA)
    Joe Flacco
    Josh Johnson
    Sean Mannion
    Nathan Peterman
    Davis Webb
    Shane Buechele (ERFA)
    Matt Barkley
    Ryan Griffin
    Garrett Gilbert
    Jake Luton
    Jake Fromm
    Easton Stick
    Joshua Dobbs
    Nate Sudfeld
    Kevin Hogan
    Jacob Eason
    Brett Hundley
    Josh Rosen
    Chris Streveler
    Anthony Brown
    Danny Etling
    Jake Browning
    James Morgan
    EJ Perry
    Chris Oladokun
    Steven Montez
    Davis Cheek
    Case Cookus
    Chase Garbers

    NOT Free Agents (but something could happen?)
    Aaron Rodgers
    Derek Carr
    Ryan Tannehill
    Tua Tagovailoa
    Carson Wentz
    Jameis Winston
    Marcus Mariota
    Zach Wilson
    Trey Lance
    Mitchell Trubisky
    Jordan Love
    Matt Ryan

    I can draft one of these guys with a top 3/15 pick (except the last two).
    Bryce Young
    CJ Stroud
    Will Levis
    Anthony Richardson
    Hendon Hooker?

    Or I can say the hell with all that and roll with Tank Commander Mills one more year. :D
     
  12. Fulgore

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    No thanks. Take Bryce and solve the most important position.
     
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  13. rhino17

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    This is a ridiculous idea. 49ers invested way too much in Lance to give him away for a 2nd rounder, essentially before he has ever played a game. And if they are willing to dump him already, then he isn’t someone worth trading for. Take the QB at the top of THIS draft. Don’t waste time on other people’s left overs
     
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    I would trade a 5th and a 6th for Zack Wilson and let him compete with Mulls for the job. If they both suck, I would draft a QB in 2024.
     
  15. snowconeman22

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    Draft BPA or move pick to gain immense future value .

    continue to build the defense and strong offensive line prospects ,plus one or two playmakers on offense .

    bring back tunsil .

    get Derek Carr

    success
     
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    https://theathletic.com/4035632/2022/12/29/team-by-team-nfl-draft-picks/?source=twitterhq

    1. Houston Texans: Bryce Young, QB, Alabama

    Young’s size (listed at 6-foot-0, 194 pounds) is one reason there’s no consensus top quarterback prospect in this draft. There’s little debate, however, that the Texans should address that position here. If Houston has decided 24 starts into Davis Mills’ career that he’s most effective in a two-quarterback offense with Jeff Driskel, then Mills, a 2021 third-round pick, is clearly not the long-term answer.

    The Texans and GM Nick Caserio haven’t been scared to operate against conventional wisdom (see: their last two head coaching hires), but I’ll go with the relatively obvious choice here. Young is draft expert Dane Brugler’s top-rated prospect at the position and the No. 3 prospect overall. — Aaron Reiss



    2. Chicago Bears: Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia
    3. Seattle Seahawks (via Broncos): Will Anderson Jr., Edge, Alabama
    4. Arizona Cardinals: Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia
    5. Indianapolis Colts: Will Levis, QB, Kentucky
    6. Atlanta Falcons: Myles Murphy, Edge, Clemson
    7. Detroit Lions (via Rams): Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon
    8. Carolina Panthers: C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State
    9. Las Vegas Raiders: Cam Smith, CB, South Carolina
    10. Philadelphia Eagles (via Saints): Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson
     
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    https://theathletic.com/4026186/2022/12/29/nfl-draft-2023-college-football-playoff/

    Counting down the top 12 NFL prospect matchups in the College Football Playoff semifinals:

    (Note: An asterisk identifies an underclassman.)

    12. Michigan WR Ronnie Bell vs. TCU CB Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson
    11. TCU LG Steve Avila/C Alan Ali vs. Michigan NT Mazi Smith*
    10. Georgia RB Kenny McIntosh vs. Ohio State LB Tommy Eichenberg*
    9. Georgia C Sedrick Van Pran* vs. Ohio State DT Taron Vincent
    8. TCU QB Max Duggan/RB Kendre Miller* vs. Michigan defense
    7. Georgia LT Broderick Jones* vs. Ohio State DE Zach Harrison
    6. Michigan RB Donovan Edwards* vs. TCU LB Dee Winters/Edge Dylan Horton

    5. Ohio State interior OL vs. Georgia DT Jalen Carter*

    Jalen Carter (6-3, 310) is the best player in this year’s College Football Playoff, plain and simple. A legitimate candidate for the No. 1 overall pick in April, the junior from Apopka, Fla., is a game-wrecker with impressive body control and natural power. Carter has the explosiveness to shoot gaps or loop around blocks, while also using his saw-blade hands and natural force to overpower whatever stands in his way. The main takeaway from Carter’s tape? His block destruction is special.

    The strength of Ohio State’s offensive line is on the edges, at left and right tackle. However, all three interior linemen will have a shot in the NFL because of their talent, even if they can be inconsistent at times. Fifth-year senior RG Matthew Jones has some draftable grades and is considered a priority free agent by others. Redshirt sophomore C Luke Wypler has NFL starting potential and will have a decision to make after the season — like Van Pran, he could give this year’s center class a nice boost. LG Donovan Jackson has the highest ceiling of the group, but he is only a true sophomore and is not yet draft-eligible.

    4. TCU WR Quentin Johnston* vs. Michigan CB DJ Turner*
    3. Georgia TE Brock Bowers and TE Darnell Washington* vs. Ohio State S Ronnie Hickman and S Lathan Ransom*
    2. Ohio State WR Marvin Harrison Jr.* vs. Georgia CB Kelee Ringo*

    1. Ohio State QB C.J. Stroud* vs. FS Christopher Smith and the Georgia defense

    C.J. Stroud is the NFL prospect with the most to gain in the College Football Playoff. In what basically will be a road game for Ohio State, Stroud will face the most talented defense he’s seen in his life. If he can put the offense on his shoulders and consistently move the football, with drives culminating in touchdowns, it will send a fairly convincing message to NFL teams.

    A fantastic rhythm passer, Stroud knows where to go with the football, which is why he projects as an NFL starter. He is very structurally sound with his setup, reads and execution. He anticipates well based on his pre-snap looks and throws with impressive ball placement downfield to allow his talented receivers to make plays. However, Ohio State will likely need Stroud to be more of a creator to beat Georgia, and that is not something he has consistently shown on film. He isn’t a natural improvisor and doesn’t look comfortable scrambling or buying extra time.

    Will that change in this game? Against pressure this season, Stroud has only five touchdown passes compared to seven turnover-worthy throws. Only 10.8 percent of his total passing yards have come while under pressure (compared to 27.1 percent for Bryce Young and 26.1 percent for Heisman winner Caleb Williams).

    Although he isn’t the lock top-three draft pick Twitter seems to think, Stroud can change the narrative — this Georgia film will carry much more weight than anything else on Stroud’s tape.

    The Georgia defense lost eight draft picks off last year’s national title-winning team, including five first-rounders. However, while most of the names are different in 2022, the results have been similar. This year’s Georgia defense ranks No. 2 in scoring defense (12.8 points per game). Christopher Smith is one of the few returning starters. He leads the Bulldogs in interceptions and has been a reliable coverage defender. Although undersized, NFL scouts see him as a potential top-100 draft pick.
     
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  18. conquistador#11

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    I wish the draft was before Baseball's opening day.
    Heard Salisbury bring up Jordan Love and I would definitely be down for that trade.
    Something like a 3rd this year and a 4th next year plus throw in Cooks so that Rogers has a nice receiver to throw the ball. I'll even pay 12 millions of Cooks contract. Win win for everyone.
    Now you can draft Anderson and a receiver with the first rounders.
     
  19. Rudyc281

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    This.

    I'm way more intrigued by Jordan Love then Trey Lance…hard pass on Lance
     
  20. Rudyc281

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    I'm so ready for all the bowl games
     
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