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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. primtim24

    primtim24 Contributing Member

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    From CBS.com the advanced stats on Will Levis:
    • On passes of 15-plus Air Yards, Levis ranked 54th in completion rate (44.6%) and 36th-worst in off-target rate (32.1%) out of 148 qualifying QBs. He was the worst among the top four prospects.
    • In 2021, Levis also had the highest mark of "pickable passes" between the top 4 QB's as well, with a 4.4%. Bryce Young and CJ Stroud were both at 2.3% and 2.8% respectively. (For people saying that's only 1.5%, I'll point out, that over a season of 400+ pass attempts, that could account for 8-10 more interceptions.
    I understand his backers will point to his "injuries", but ultimately, dude misses more easy throws than the other big 3 do.
     
  2. raining threes

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    I like your way of thinking.

    This really comes down to if they're comfortable picking Hooker at 1-12 and if you think a guy like Nolan Smith not only will be available but a star level player. I really like Nolan Smith. I think he's going to be a stud. 6'3 240 runs a 4.39, he may not be Von Miller but he's going to be a headache for offenses.

    The guy I'm fairly sure will be a star level player is Bijan and he would be my pick after trading down. Then add a guy like Edge Byron Young, Tennessee in the 3rd. That guy also has a great 1st step.
     
  3. zeeshan2

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    I feel like there’s way less talent at qb than there is pass rushers. I believe in demeco and I think he has the guys after Anderson and wilson he wants that will fit in his scheme
     
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  4. raining threes

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    True and the fact that he didn't score well on the S-2 test and choosing DM means he's off the Texans board. If they choose Stroud, then Cal's truly an idiot.
     
  5. raining threes

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    True and I bet they take 2 pass rushers in this draft. One early and one late. Personally I would pick either Anderson or Wilson early (Maybe after a trade down) and Byron Young in the 3rd or 4th rd. You can never have to many pass rushers.
     
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    Didn't know these stats, but this is another reason to pass on a QB high in this draft.
     
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  7. raining threes

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    A friend of mine that knows one of the minority owners. This isn't a sure thing.
     
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  8. raining threes

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    Iosivas said the Texans have been one of the teams that are showing a lot of interest in him.
     
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    Hopefully he goes 1-2 to Indy.
     
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    If you believe in one of these QB's.

    I dont
     
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    And there’s other breakdowns from Joa that show Stroud behind Levis
     
  12. raining threes

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    How do you feel about Hooker?
     
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    Not gonna happen.

    Stroud bombed the test.
     
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  14. Two Sandwiches

    Two Sandwiches Contributing Member

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    What else about Bryce Young's SLAP tear?
     
  15. raining threes

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    He thinks Young wont have a long career.
     
  16. Housport

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    I thought this article was an interesting read on the #2 pick and the DM agent issue.

    https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/04/latest-on-texans-no-2-overall-pick

    Latest On Texans’ No. 2 Overall Pick
    April 21st, 2023 at 1:16pm CST by Sam Robinson
    A stream of skepticism about the Texans taking C.J. Stroud second overall has come out over the past few weeks. With Bryce Young all but certain to go No. 1 overall to the Panthers, Stroud’s chances to be the next name announced may depend on trade offers the Texans receive.

    Nick Caserio said teams have called regarding Houston’s No. 2 pick, and if genuine interest exists in Stroud, rumblings about a Texans trade-down will intensify as we move closer to the draft. The Texans passing on a QB at 2 and rolling the dice ahead of Caserio’s third season in charge — which the GM insists will take place, rather than an abrupt exit — would be one of the more interesting draft decisions in recent memory, but that appears to be where this is headed.

    Some on Houston’s staff do not appear as high on Stroud compared to Young, whom the Texans presumably targeted when they entered trade talks with the Bears for No. 1, and Jason La Canfora of the Washington Post notes the team’s interest in taking Will Levis or Anthony Richardson that high does not appear strong. A previous report indicated a value gap between Young and the other QBs existed in Houston as well. This would open the door to a pass rusher pick, and La Canfora adds more fuel to the Tyree Wilson-over-Will Anderson Jr. fire by indicating execs expect the Texans — should they be unable to trade the pick — to take the Texas Tech edge rusher over Alabama’s two-time Bronko Nagurski award winner.

    Stroud’s choice of agent may at least be a fringe issue for the Texans. Deshaun Watson‘s agent, David Mulugheta, is representing Stroud. The bad blood between Mulugheta and Texans ownership dates to Watson — before the run of sexual misconduct allegations surfaced — asking for a trade months after signing a four-year extension. One anonymous GM offers that Mulugheta’s top 2023 rookie client becoming the face of the Texans would be a “nonstarter” for owner Cal McNair, La Canfora adds. As could be expected, the Texans are not exactly over the Watson ugliness that included a paid full-season absence and a settlement with 30 Watson accusers who had sued the team or were preparing to do so.

    While the agent component would serve as an interesting reason to pass on a well-regarded quarterback, Texans coaches also being iffy on Stroud may bring enough concerns to follow through with a non-QB pick or trade-down scenario. In the event the Texans can move down, La Canfora adds the Texans would want to stay in the top 10. That would wall off the Titans at No. 11; Houston trading up so Tennessee can take a quarterback would be an unusual development as well. The Titans, who joined the Raiders in venturing to QB pro days but not in hosting passers on visits, loom as a wild card. They have both been connected to moving up and being too iffy on the QB crop to do so.

    The Raiders and Falcons continue to generate buzz as a trade-up candidates, per La Canfora, who adds a Titans move up — be it to No. 2 or the Cardinals’ No. 3 slot — would most likely be for Stroud. The Raiders have done extensive homework on QBs, meeting with the five top prospects, while the Falcons hosted Stroud on a visit this week.

    Were the Texans to pass on a QB, they would essentially be further delaying their rebuild. The team trading down only to use its No. 12 overall pick to move back up for a passer would bring some odd complications to a process that could wrap by simply drafting a passer at 2. While other roster areas appear somewhat improved from 2022, Houston waiting until 2024 to acquire its franchise-QB hopeful would extend this already-lengthy rebuild. Then again, team connections to using a top-10 selection on a quarterback often include talk of that franchise not expecting to be picking high again. That has not been an issue for the Texans, who have either landed a top-three pick or seen their draft choice fall in that territory in each of the past three years.

    And, if the Texans actually exit the first round with Case Keenum and Davis Mills as their top QBs, Caleb Williams (USC) and Drake Maye (North Carolina) continue to generate considerable attention around the NFL a year away from their draft eligibility.
     
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  17. CRJ713

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    All these smokescreens! It would be hilarious if Carolina picks Stroud.
     
  18. coachbadlee

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    Orrr an idiot genius.
     
  19. Mr.Scarface

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    Um, the S2 founder said today the leaked scores are false.

    Texans don't even use S2. CJ Stroud will probably be the pick.
     
  20. coachbadlee

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