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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. deb4rockets

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    Not sure how a little 6' QB would do with our offensive line and wide receivers. Our wide receivers are usually covered like flies on sugar. Alabama has the best offensive line in college football.
     
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  2. Omihall23

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    You’re clearly not a person who does research. Alabama’s offensive line hasn’t been great this year. Watching clips where the opposing team only rushed 3 people is misleading. The reality is, Bryce Young has to deal with more pressure than any other Alabama qb ever has because the line absolutely allows pressure. He’s very good at eluding the pressure. As far as his receivers, as of today, none of them would be drafted so that’s a bad assessment on your part as well. Young would take Ohio States or Tennessee’s offensive line in a heartbeat and both of their receiving corps as well.
     
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    This guy is a beast, so fun to watch.

    @Uprising
     
  4. deb4rockets

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    I did do my research. The #1 ranking is from Oct 24th, 2022. Maybe your eye test isn't right, unless you are smarter than everyone else and are missing your calling.

    https://cfbsaturdays.com/position-u-rankings/offensive-line-u-rankings/
     
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  5. deb4rockets

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    Wouldn't it be fun to have a beast if a wide receivers?
     
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    I think it more have to do is watching the games.. Bryce is under pressure more than usual for Alabama qbs. The Tennessee game alone he was under pressure most of the game while still making plays.
     
  7. deb4rockets

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    So the guys rating the offensive lines of all the teams don't watch the games? I would imagine they rate them on more than one game.
     
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    I'm for trading down a bit and drafting this guy or Washington. Both have unique skill sets.
     
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    Agree wholeheartedly!
    I want him (QUENTIN JOHNSTON) more than any other receiver in this draft (that I've seen), even the ones rated over him.
    After him I like Rashee Rice SMU in the 2nd or 3rd round, probably hope he falls to the 3rd.
    If we don't get either of them I like Jermaine Burton Ala. (deep threat) and A T Perry Wake Forest 4th round and on.
     
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  11. Omihall23

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    I love when people own themselves. If you go to this random website that you provided and click on how they calculate their rankings, it very clearly says it's based on that school's draft positions for the offensive line over the past 10 years. Has nothing at all to do with how good their offensive line is this year, and actually proves my point that Alabama traditionally has a great offensive line. Anyone that watches the games knows that it isn't nearly as good this year.
     
  12. deb4rockets

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    Well, thank you for pointing that out. You don't have to be such a dick about it though. No, I don't watch college ball. I try to spend Saturdays outdoors, and just watch Sunday football. I am just leary of short quarterbacks in a league of giants, especially with our offensive line,.
     
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    I'll admit my first response wasn't the nicest, but I'm just returning the energy. I'll tone it down. I think it's reasonable to worry about a smaller qb, but at the same time every player is a gamble to some degree and Bryce Young does seem to avoid pressure very well. I think our offensive line could be better, but it's not terrible. It's top half of the league in performance currently and would probably look a little better with a more mobile qb. Still could use some upgrades on the interior though.
     
  14. Rudyc281

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    His technique and use of hands on a rush are so damn good. He's amazing in run defense too.
     
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    https://theathletic.com/3732698/2022/10/27/nfl-draft-2023-outliers-bryce-young/

    Bryce Young, QB, Alabama*

    What makes him an outlier?
    When Young is “officially” measured at the combine in a few months, scouts expect he’ll be below 6 feet tall (maybe closer to 5-foot-10) and less than 200 pounds. Of the 301 quarterbacks drafted the last 25 years, just two (Seneca Wallace in 2003 and Joe Hamilton in 2000) fell below both those marks, and neither was drafted in the first three rounds.

    Quarterbacks like Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson have produced despite their shorter statures, but the main difference with Young is the body type. Murray and Wilson have much different builds and more muscle definition. Knowing his weight will be scrutinized, Young will likely add some bulk between now and the combine, but he doesn’t have the frame to easily carry 205-210 pounds of good weight.



    Why might he be an exception?
    Focusing on the critical factors at the position, Young excels. Accuracy and touch? Check. Mental processing and vision? Check. Toughness and intangibles? Check. Does he need to better protect himself? Absolutely. Part of what makes Young so effective is his fearless creativity to thrive out of structure, but it is a double-edged sword because it often leads to extra hits that take their toll. Durability is a trait desired at every position, especially quarterback.

    Young’s lack of body armor will be a problem for some teams. But he will be QB1 for several others because he is an on-field problem solver. His instincts to understand and answer everything going on around him are uncanny and worth betting on very early in the NFL Draft, even if his size makes him an outlier.


    Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee

    What makes him an outlier?
    He’ll be 25 years old Jan. 13. He was part of the same recruiting class as Tua Tagovailoa, who will be starting his fourth NFL season as Hooker enters his first, and is 2 months older than Justin Herbert.

    Age is a hotly debated data point in the scouting process. Some teams are hypersensitive about it and won’t consider older players in the first few rounds. Others have no set guidelines and don’t consider it a determining factor. Obviously, younger would be better if all things were equal, but each case is different and should be scrutinized as such.

    Over the last 15 years, we have seen a few “older” quarterbacks drafted in the top 40 picks, including Brandon Weeden (28 years old) and John Beck (25). In this past NFL Draft, Kenny Pickett was the lone first-round quarterback and just turned 24 in June.

    Why might he be an exception?
    Based on feedback from NFL teams, older age for a quarterback isn’t as high of a hurdle as, say, a wide receiver, cornerback or another skill position. In fact, I’ve heard more concerns about Hooker’s college offense than his age.

    In a perfect world, teams want to draft a 21-year-old QB with an impressive body of work in college and considerable NFL upside still in front of him. But the main criteria should be: Can he win us football games? If the answer is yes, that should take precedent over his age, his school or whatever else.

    Coming into the year, Hooker was viewed as a fourth- or fifth-round pick. If he finishes this season as strong as he started, his draft grade will get bumped into Day 2.
     
  17. Rudyc281

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    Not to mention he is a “Dawg” and could be a real culture changer.

    Anderson
    Sting
    Pitre
    Harris

    Yes please
     
  18. Verbal Christ

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    Dont stop there! Add another top 10 defender with the Browns pick AND another with our 2nd rounder.
     
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  19. zeeshan2

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    https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-rumor-...niel-jones-future-2023-nfl-draft-qbs-and-more
     
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  20. Rudyc281

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    Naw browns pick should be best offensive player. (Not Robinson tho) hopefully Bryce is there with Stroud and Levis going before him.

    Also wouldn’t mind a trade down and getting more picks for the future and drafting Darnell Washington who is my TE1 now before Mayer.
     
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