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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. TexasRedd

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  2. Mr.Scarface

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    The problem is they are all different schemes. Stroud is not running the same offense as Smith and Pryor, Barrett or Jones.

    Fields and Stroud are in basically the same offense. Mayfield, Jalen Hurts, and Kyler Murray all ran the same offense at Oklahoma. Yet, only one them is striving in the pros. Other Oklahoma QBs have struggled in the pros (in different offenses), should we blame their lack of success on Oklahoma? Caleb Williams at USC runs the same Oklahoma offense that Mayfield, Jalen Hurts, and Kyler Murray ran. Should we discount him because of 2 of the 3 recent QBs from that offense have underperformed in the NFL?
     
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    I saw Stroud do that in his last game played at Georgia. What should impress you is how Georgia DESTROYED TCU and Max Duggan, but Stroud shredded them.

    Certain states matter: TD to Int ratio is one. Look at Young and Stroud’s (Mahomes’ too) vs will levis. Huge predicator.
     
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    This is why accuracy, processing, and ability to read defenses is the most important thing in a college qb. Gimme Bryce young. I don’t trust any of the others..

    also, this proves the point of how much coaching matters.
     
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    TD to Int ratio matters less when you have elite talent around you. Stroud has elite of the elite at receiver. You rarely see them not have 3 yds of separation
     
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    I don't want Caserio to draft Levis, but comparing a QB in Kentucky's offense with the talent around Levi's to Mahomes playing for Leach in that offense with that talent around him tells me you're a boxscore watcher or you don't know what you're looking at.
     
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    #1. You compared Mahomes and Levis.
    #2. The excuses people give Levis is laughable. Blame everyone else but Levis for his performances.
     
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    Levis does have more boom or bust than Stroud. Stroud is more polished, but his upside is somewhere between Brissett and Goff.
     
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    You are on crack.
     
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    All I’m telling you is the truth. It’s on you to believe it or not.
     
  11. raining threes

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    I answered somebody elses post.

    I'm not making excuses for him, because I dont want them to draft him.

    But there's a dig difference playing in a conventual offense vs the run -n- shoot.
     
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    Keep in mind, Scarface thought David Culley was a good hire and the right guy for the Texans, so...
     
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    Oh wow. But won’t Levis have the most upside and the top 3 arm, velocity and power out of all of NFL QBs? That’s what I’ve been hearing around here. #statslie?
     
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    Outside of 16-20 and 31+ he’s dead even with Stroud, who had elite receivers all over the field.
     
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    Exactly. Everyone loves bringing up Josh Allen like all we need now is tools. But Allen without ELITE coaching hasn't been nearly as good. I wouldn't base ANYTHING off of Josh Allen. Because as bad as Josh Allen was against higher competition, he also was at Wyoming...so he definitely wasn't getting any help from his roster.

    Will Levis had an SEC recruited roster just like his opponents, and didn't do ANYTHING with it. And before you say "his WR's were trash", so were Cam Newton's, Jay Cutler's, Dak Prescott's, and others. The fact that he hasn't (consistently) put much together against the teams he had a better roster than shows he's too risky.
     
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    Richardson’s deep balls are better? And neck and neck on the way down. Needs to work on footwork for shorter stuff?
     
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    2) Bryce Young QB/Alabama
    12) Isaiah Foskey EDGE/Notre Dame
    33) Zay Flowers WR/Boston College
    65) Jarrett Patterson C/Notre Dame
    73) Kendre Miller RB/TCU
    104) Ji'Ayir Brown S/Penn State
    137)Cameron Latu TE/Alabama
    188) Henry Bainivalu G/Washington
    201) Richard Gouraige G/Florida
    203) Tre'vius Hodges-Tomlinson CB/TCU
    206) YaYa Diaby EDGE/Louisville
    237) Jake Bobo WR/UCLA
    260) Dylan McMahon G/NC State
     
  18. Sooty

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    He had top 25 recruited rosters to work with, which isn’t a slight at all.
     
  19. Omihall23

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    Incredible how you will even misrepresent a chart that we’re all looking at. He wasn’t close in 6-10 either. From 6-20 is the most important area for a nfl qb to be accurate and out of the 5 players both Levis and Richardson were awful in that range. Major projection. Ultimate boom or bust. I really hope the Colts take this ticket.
     
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  20. cmoak1982

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    Are you illiterate?
    Outside of the two I mentioned there’s less than 5% difference either way between the two.
    And there is a massive difference in talent level at receiver.

    6-10 69.4% to 74.5% is not a massive difference. Don’t be intentionally ignorant
     

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