Absolutely - but that clock starts after you get the QB. Most other players don't last that long. If you're waiting until 2025 or 2026 for your QB, whoever you draft now is probably completely irrelevant to your team when it actually gets to the point of competitive. Similar to how the Texans got elite DEs in Mario Williams and Clowney - after 5 years, they were gone. If your goal is to draft Arch Manning in 2026, you might as well draft a boom/bust QB this year. Either he'll be great and you can actually get good earlier, or he'll suck and you'll be in position to draft Manning in 2026. The defensive player you alternatively pick is likely gone or paid a fortune by 2028 or so anyway.
Why? Because he played at Ohio State? Have you watched Stroud? He is probably the best QB OSU has ever had. You telling me he sucks, but why?
I don’t think Stroud is gonna suck, but I do think he has a much lower ceiling than someone like BY or Levis. Stroud played in an Ohio State offense that is historically super simple for QBs to pickup and doesn’t prepare them for a pro offense. He played the last two seasons with the likes of Olave, Wilson, Njigba, Harrison Jr at WR, so he’s had absolutely insane weapons. He plays in a conference that isn’t exactly known for having defenses with much speed/athleticism like he’ll play in the NFL. He hasn’t faced much pressure in college and when he has his numbers have dropped significantly. Now, he looked great in the Georgia game. And for the first time ever he showed his scrambling ability. So that alone might be a reason to believe he can take the leap at the next level. But IMO there’s way too many warning signs with him.
Ok, I trust people who know OSU's program. I am going to ask you, Why will Levis? A QB who STRUGGLED against Vandy. His stats are not impressive. He has a big arm? So? So did JaMarcus Russell, Blake Bortles, Jake Locker. Sometimes, play against the best teams matter. Not just average stats that Levis put up against LSU and Georgia his first year at UK, but couldn't repeat those numbers the next against Georgia. And those last 3 games of his career were dogshit. NOTHING Levis has done is even close to Young and Stroud. Why should Levis be thought of as another QB that has physical skills, but cannot read defenses or place the ball in where it needs to be under pressure?
I’m not actually big on Levis, I would just pick him over Stroud. Young would be the only QB I would use the 2 on
I have no idea who will be best, but it's the same as the argument of "why would anyone want Josh Allen who was mediocre at Wyoming instead of Mayfield or Darnold, who put up huge numbers in big conferences?" There are lots of successful NFL QB's who weren't phenomenal in college; there are lots that didn't play at big schools or play big competition. There are also lots of failures. Same for the opposite. Comparing QBs by their college numbers or trying to evaluate players on individual games is a fool's errand.
Josh Allen is the EXCEPTION. He was lucky to have a GREAT Offensive mind coaching him. Stop comparing Levis to Allen. There is comparing numbers then there are the numbers Stroud and Young put up over their careers. Those are some of the best numbers in the history of college football. Against the Best Competition in College Football.
Never draft a Michigan QB (unless it's Brady) Never draft a Tech QB (unless it's Mahomes) Never draft a Cal QB (unless it's Rogers) Never draft a UCLA QB (unless it's Aikman) Never draft a blah blah blah blah. It's a ****ing tiresome exercise.
I guess I would be ok with this, but I hate to waste high draft picks on good, not great QB's. He's got the best skill set arm/mobility/ that's fairly accurate in this draft. With that said don't think that I'm sold on Levis at 1-2. I definitely wouldn't spend 1-2 on Levis or any other QB in this draft.
Waiting a year instead of setting for a QB because you need a QB is thinking like the worst franchise in pro sports? Thinking like you is why the franchise is where it's at today. A lack of patience is a big reason why this org is where it's at today.
O come on, there’s a little more to the Ohio state QBs.. Troy smith, Terrelle Pryor, JT Barrett, cardale jones, Dwayne Haskins (rip), Justin fields.. multiple times it was “well this is the best qb Ohio state has had” and every time it has been a bust. I’m an Ohio state fan, I have been my whole life. I loved watching a lot of these guys. I even hope Stroud succeeds. But not on my team, I don’t wanna risk it. it’s not something as blanket as “all OSU QBs must suck” it’s scheme. It just doesn’t transfer well. Hell, tech and the air raid offense, it doesn’t transfer well either. Mahomes IS the exception, but it’s not like there have been a bunch of tech QBs that have all failed until them, honestly not sure how many came through the nfl. Same with the other colleges you listed. I also like defensive backs from LSU, oLinemen from the big ten, etc… but guess we’ll see.
Mahomes in college: 11,252 yards, 93 TDs, 29 INTs. 8.8 Yards per attempt. 63.5 comp.%. Levis: 5876 yards, 46 TDs, 25 Ints, 8.0 yards per attempt. 64.9 comp.% Levis is not in the same galaxy as Mahomes in college. Hell, he can’t even match Blake Bortles: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/blake-bortles-1.html The problem for you Levis lovers is that production does matter. Josh Allen is the EXCEPTION. Having a big arm is not “Mahomes tools”. Processing a defensive coverage and how to react to is the biggest part of being a QB. Levis had not shown that capability. I’ve seen Young and Stroud do it. Not Levis.
