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2023 ALW sprint to the finish.

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by IdStrosfan, Aug 25, 2023.

  1. SooneRockStro

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    It’s probably going to take 91 wins to win the division. Even if Seattle goes 4-3 against Texas and 2-1 against the Astros, that only gives them 90 wins. The Astros would need to win 5 of 6 against KC and Arizona in that scenario. It’s imperative the Astros win 2 games this weekend minimum. A sweep likely gives them a little wiggle room in the event you lose the series in Seattle.

    If Texas goes 4-3 against Seattle and 3-0 against LA then they finish with 91 wins and again the Astros need 91 wins. Seattle could only max out at 90 wins in this scenario and that would include a sweep of Houston. The Astros could win the division by winning the other 6 games. This is why we want Texas to go 4-3 and not Seattle. Texas could also lose games to LA, lowering the threshold to possibly only needing 90 wins assuming you win just one game against Seattle.

    The best scenario for this weekend is Texas wins 2 of 3 and you sweep KC. Then you all but knock out Seattle if you manage to win the series in Seattle.

    Also, the only three way tiebreaker the Astros would win could only occur in the event the Royals and Dbacks both sweep the Astros. In that event, Houston sweeps Seattle to finish with 14 wins against Seattle and Texas and finishes 3-6 overall in the last 9 for 88 wins. Seattle goes 4-3 against Texas to finish with 88 wins, and 13 wins against Houston and Texas. Texas goes 3-4 against Seattle and 1-2 against the Angels to finish with 88 wins and 12 wins against Seattle and Houston.

    If Seattle, Houston and Texas all finishes with 13 wins against each other Seattle takes the division due to intradivision record. Hence why the above scenario is the only possible way for the Astros to win a three way tie. Therefore, we shouldn’t concern ourselves at all with that scenario.
     
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  2. YOLO

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  3. SooneRockStro

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    This is so false. The Astros don’t have to win out. The most likely scenarios give the Astros the division if they go just 6-3. Even 5-4 COULD win the division. But yeah, they have to win this weekend.
     
  4. YOLO

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    no it isn't false. you need to understand what magic number is and what the post means

    Seattle has the tie break over hous, so if hou wins all 9, still need Seattle to lose at least once. If hou wins 8, hou needs 2 Seattle losses, and so on

    The Astros have a Magic Number with the Rangers (9).
    The Astros have a Magic Number with the Mariners (10).
     
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    If the Astros win out then that means Seattle would have lost at least 3 games.
     
  6. YOLO

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    Every time the Rangers & Mariners play, one of those top 2 numbers will decrease by 1.

    It's the magic number of 10 because Mariners could go 10-0 and win the division. Any combination of Astros wins/losses by second place team equals 10

    Ex) if the stros have a 6-3 finish would need 4 Seattle losses
     
  7. jim1961

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    Sprint, crawl, sleepwalk or whatever, here we are.
    The last 10 games.

    Last chance for a team to streak, one way or the other.

    The Blue Jays are sorta a wildcard.
    If they do poorly, all the familiar division rivals most likely get in.
    If they do really well, one of the Astros, Mariners or Rangers probably will miss the playoffs.
     
  8. MadRox

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    It's gonna be a bloodbath to the finish line, 4 teams playing for 3 spots, Astros and Blue Jays tied at 85-68 with Rangers and Mariners only half game behind at 84-68. Could have been comfortably in the lead, but we just had to lose so many games to the Athletics and Royals last couple weeks
     
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    I'm rooting for a bloodbath either way for Sea/Tex, but if I had to choose I'd pick Seattle to win 4-3. If Texas does no better than 2-1 vs the Angels then that's 89 wins Houston would only need to go 4-5 to match that and secure the playoffs.
     
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    Just look at the ****ing loss column for all the teams and do some 1st grade math, it's not that complicated.

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  11. IdStrosfan

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    Mlb.com has a story up about 13 rookies to be excited about in October.

    It says these are the 13 best rookies on playoff or contending teams.

    Not a single Astro in the story.

    ( can't figure out how to add a link, I'm old)
     
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    https://www.mlb.com/news/rookies-to-watch-in-2023-postseason

    (When you are posting, click the icon that looks like a chain link and insert the web address)
     
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    Caminero for the Rays made his ML debut today and has a hit and walk in his first two ABs.

    over a full season on pace to go 162/162 1.000 avg with 162 walks. Move over Williams and Gwynn
     
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    We are not alone
     
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    They already know MLB ain't letting us in
     
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    Damn, they broke Ben. C'mon, guys, let's turn this around- today is a great day to start.

    Go 'stros!
     
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    That tweet was incredibly tame compared to some of his hilariously awesome rants and meltdowns - mostly related to UT football - during his bbs days as @The Cat
     
  19. Jose Cuervo

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    This has been the longest slowest sprint ever.
     
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    Blue Jays are getting in. They are streaking right now; Springer is hitting to start off their line up. Plus the Yankees cannot beat them and the Rays are walking wounded.
     

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