I'm betting you that Green will still have a higher usage rate and time of possession higher than Sengun. With FVV Im not willing to bet but I wouldn't be surprised if he beats out FVV also in time of possession and usage rate. Green's usage rate could drop a bit and he'd still could possibly be the most utilized player. You are really putting too much stock in these one liner quotes. Yes obviously a more organized offense will be played. Yes Green will get more easier off ball looks but that doesn't magically mean Green is third fiddle on this team in terms of doing on hall work. He's going to be second or first. Most likey second behind FVV for the first half of the season and IF he makes his leap then probably pass him by the second half. And btw No means does this mean we are playing a offense "around" Jalen Green. I do expect usage to be distributed more evenly this season. It's just on a NBA team someone on the team mathematically has to have the highest amount of time of possession and usage.
I’m not sure how usage rate is calculated but the difference between this year is that last year our offense was giving the ball to kpj and Jalen and letting them “cook”, that’s going to be completely taken out of the offense besides end of shot clock situations. Instead the ball is going to our best decision makers, which is Fvv first and foremost and then Sengun. For all of Jalen’s talents and potential, decision making is currently something he needs to work on, which is why we are making him a play finisher now instead of a play initiator. He’s going to be used completely differently and once he gets used to it his effectiveness should really go up. That doesn’t necessarily even mean Green takes less shots, it’s just a difference of where and how he’s getting his shots. Then as his decision making improves, so will his initiating on ball reps. We are not doling out “development reps” to players who are not good at certain thing just for the sake of practicing it anymore, winning will drive how we play and you have to earn your on ball reps.
There is no such thing as every play being initiated by one player unless it's a heliocentric offense like a Luka or prime Harden offense. The big change this year isn't changing who is the heliocentric guys. The change is having a more diverse offense which includes Jalen sometimes initiating, FVV sometimes initiating and Alpi sometimes initiating. It just doesn't work like the way you state.
The way Jalen Green played last year significantly improved the Rockets offense compared to when he was on the bench also. https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/4865/onoff#tab-team_efficiency So saying he didn't earn his own ball reps is asinine. Dude was in the 90th percentile in on/off ppp. There was little talent around him last season. His on ball reps were more of a necessity than just gifting him possessions. A lot of the possessions were exactly the team trying to run a offensive set, breaking down and someone who can't dribble like KJ trying to frantically find where Green is on the court to dump it to him with the clock running out.
I agree, I'm high on Amen. I'm only saying you cannot get away with 2 bad shooters on the floor at the same time in the NBA especially when we don't have elite shooters on this team. We have players that can become elite shooters in Jalen and Jabari.
We are not running a heliocentric offense, the mainstays will be fvv/Sengun pnr, fvv/Sengun dho, Sengun high post looking for cutters, Sengun lowpost iso. Other players will play off of the openings created by these actions. Jalen will also get some on ball reps with pnr and dho with Sengun, but that’s not going to be a focus unless Jalen improves his playmaking further. We will also run Jalen off screens and cuts with fvv or Sengun delivering him the ball.
This just means Nix and Josh Christopher sucks ass which we already knew. Yes the ball was forced to Jalen last year because we didn’t have better options, especially when the coach actively went away from Sengun. This year we won’t have to force feed Jalen because we have Fvv, and a coach with a brain who knows what he has in Sengun.
Kinda proves my hunch you are just making up **** as you go along and don't have any hard defined views besides "what does it take to put down Green". Because now we have Shrodinger's "he didn't earn his on ball reps" situation. So you can make up something new now and pick a lane. Did he get on ball reps because the team had no choice or did he get on ball reps because he was gifted them by the coaching staff and GM?
Who gets to eat on a team is a political issue, unfortunately. I want my team to win, which means I want to see the most productive plays over and over and over… However I doubt they’d do that, unfortunately. Jalen will probably get more on-ball reps than is wise, because there will still be pressures to "develop him". Dillon will probably also get more reps than advisable, because he;s a big dog and you don’t want him mad The Tari thing is a total WTF, unless I am completely missing something. The guys getting less reps than what the team needs are Sengun and Smith. Sengun is an offense in himself, they should ride him like a workhorse. He’s also pretty useless off-ball, so if he’s on the court and you are not running the O through him, you are flat out hurting the team. Smith can get his shot against everyone, with his height and high release. Can he make them? Hard to know yet, but he did put up historic 3pt stats in his one year in college. You need to explore more if that would translate at the pro. It has the potential to be a bread and butter type of O. I’d much rather give Smith more shots than giving the ball to Green and watching him meander aimlessly and put up mediocre shots…
If you think I’m shting on Jalen when I said he will take a leap this year in affecting winning by changing the way we use him then you are a more deluded onlyfan than I realized. I know it’s never about winning for you people, it’s winning while YOUR player gets his. The kpj mentality - we need to purge that from the team and fanbase.
Imagine saying a dude in his rookie year who scores 23% of their fgs self created with a 51% ts% should get more reps than a dude his rookie had 50% of his fgs unassisted and 55% ts. The dude who had a significantly higher efficiency on significantly higher ratio of difficult self created attempts should get less reps than the dude who had significantly worse efficiency on significantly easier shot diet. Like it's an irrational.hatesd for Green.
Don't be coy. Look at your diction the past few posts. You start off with "all possessions will run through Sengun and FVV" and slowly are walking away from there claim. You just make **** up on the spot. If you think Green is going to get no on ball reps you are delusional not me. This team isn't going to run "everything" through Sengun and or FVV. Neither of those guys are anywhere talented enough to make that claim. The change would be a more even distribution and MORE VARIETY. Which yes means Green will play more off ball but that just means his ratio of fgs made being self created will go down to something like 50% from 60%, not 60% to KJ Martin level 20% as your wording suggests. Variety, structure etc are the change. Not shifting to some new heliocentric guys.
What? How much fuel left? What are you talking about? A lot of players just entered their prime at that age. You sound like he’s 36 or something. LOL
You think the Timberwolves or the Suns after the first two years of Ant and Booker were thinking "hey we should turn them into pure off ball players"? What would you consider the type of half court possession that most utilizes advanced dribble and playmaking skills? I would consider it being PnR primary ball handler possessions. Because it's the type of possession where ball handlers are navigating through traffic and screens with a live dribble the most. It is literally the type of possession this team spams with KPJ and Green the past two seasons and why people call the offense a "AAU offense". Compare second year pnr ball handling possessions for Green to guys like Ant, Booker, Beal, Lavine etc. He far exceeds all of them in volume and efficiency and turnover rate(lower). He's more advanced as a ball handler than second year Ant or Booker. So do you think those guys should be purely off ball players?
He is seeing a reduced role also, one which is paid like a minor superstar admittedly but his minutes is getting reduced with so much talent on the team. Believe it or not, he will be played like a 2nd or 3rd option on Offense and a mentor on Defense. Maybe I should re-structure the sentence....... we might see how much gas Udoka let FVV use in his disposal. He will be getting rest when Amen is proven ready and that might come sooner than later. If his shooting is not great in the first 2 months, I can envision his minutes getting reduced further. His off the ball part is not really good without shots made..... A great part why Toronto won that chip was because everyone else was injured, Kawhi and shooting from Fred off the pine, he was efficient. That is the harsh reality of this team, there is no great shooter and a great athlete in one body on this team.
I never said Green will get NO on ball reps, I just said that won’t be the focus. Learn to read and stop thinking everything as a slight on your boy.
