really, we haven’t paid any price for Peña’s drought. We’re the top team in the AL and lead the division by a mile. It’s a bit much to say we can’t carry a Peña or Hunter Brown right now. Lol, just above you say you can’t translate AAA production reliably and then in a later post you say based on AAA stats that Burleson is basically Kyle Tucker. There is no scenario where Burleson, a guy who can’t even crack the ML’s in his own system, is anywhere near Kyle Tucker (top 5 pick pedigree and current all-star). basically every single player on the Astros has more value to another team because good players affect a bad team’s position on the win curve/playoff odds more than a good team. That doesn’t mean you trade them for less than they’re worth.
I wondered why xcrunner was yelling into space for a moment, turns out he was yelling at the guy who asked if the Astros ever considered dangling Framber to the D-Backs for Corbin Carroll.
Pretty much everyone of the young pitchers have options + years of control. You don't forfeit that outside of the Playstation. By your logic, we should have dealt Roy, Wandy, Lance, and Framber because the roster spots were spoken for and we had needs elsewhere.
Verlander Valdez Javier Urquidy McCullers Brown Garcia Abreu Maton Neris Montero W Smith Stanek Pressly S Martinez 15 pitchers that a case could be made to make the playoff roster. The Astros are going to have to get very creative.
In a good bullpen there are a number of setup men. That's really good because they can't pitch every day. Astros are fortunate that when every one is healthy just about every reliever is capable of consistently being expected to do well in the 8th inning. (As fans we would be wary if it's Smith or Maton).
For one, we could have possibly gotten first seed throughout. Second, a more efficient offense reduces stress on the pitchers and makes workloads easier to manage. Third, the issue gets amplified in the playoffs...
Uh, go back and check. I said HUNTER BROWN and not Garcia or Urquidy for him. Your entire point is irrelevant because it affects both sides of the equation. I did the comparison because Tucker was highly thought of and you can make a case Burleson is in the same ballpark based on age and production. I'm starting to think you're not a serious person...
Yes, that's why i didn't propose trading them straight up. I think that's what the kids call a sick burn. Personally i think it's just pointing out you forgot what the comment you were replying to.
So when you trade a prospect for another prospect you are saying that's forfeiting control? Yeah, they are on someone else's team. But you get control over the player you get, which would be identical in this scenario. It's quite a point you made there... yes, when you trade someone you forfeit the control over their status... agreed...
So... I'll ask this again. Can anyone confirm whether HB will be eligible for the playoff roster or are we seriously relying on the Manfred exception ****?
The Astros have a good bullpen, with multiple setup and closing options. No, he was not placed on the 40-man until after Aug 31. It will take an injury to get him on the postseason roster, but in theory that's not hard to do. ETA: IIRC, we've got Blake Taylor and Josh James (Castro and Brantley for position players) injured on the 60-day but eligible for the postseason...if they "stay injured" they could be replaced by players outside of the 40-man roster pool. Don't quote me on this quite yet. https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/postseason-roster-rules-eligibility
He is eligible as long as he was within the organization. ...and trading him in the offseason is still the most ridiculous take I have seen here since we touted the merits of the Westbrook trade.
Careful now, he may interpret it as a personal attack... but when you and I agree on something... you know something is undisputable.
**Correction made Expected 26-man roster assuming everyone is healthy that is expected to be healthy (no Brantley, Taylor, James)... some wiggle room in the 25/26th spots due to matchups Starters: C - Maldonado 1B - Gurriel 2B - Altuve 3B - Bregman SS - Pena LF - Alvarez CF - McCormick RF - Tucker DH - Mancini Bench: 4OF - Dubon UTIL - A. Diaz Backup C - C. Vazquez Emergency C - Y. Diaz Rotation SP1 - Verlander SP2 - Valdez SP3 - McCullers SP4 - Urquidy Long - Javier Long - Garcia vLHB Specialist - Abreu (much better splits than Smith) vRHB Specialist - Martinez (.127 opp. BA by RHB) MID - Brown MID - Neris SU - Stanek SU - Montero CL - Pressly
Ryne Stanek would like a word with you, but good list. I’d replace Smith with Stanek and I think Hensley will get the nod over Diaz.
I assume at least one of those Gurriels is Breggman. The Astros are more likely to take 12 pitchers and 14 position players to the playoffs than not. I think an argument for 11 and 15 would not be too difficult to defend. Their bullpen is the best rested in the business. They are needed for less innings per game than any other. By moving McCullers and Javier (usually only good for about 4-5 innings) to the pen they are left with four starters that will probably go 7 or 8 innings per game if McCullers and Javier close out two games in each series and pitch in tandem as the 5th starter in the one game that will require it, 5 relievers should be plenty. Adding one for just in case only gets you to 12 pitchers.
