2022 Playoff and 2023 Roster Discussions

Ed wade is an insult. The context of using that insult made no sense since i would be the opposite of ed wade.

Ed wade would say trade Bregman for a few b prospects...

The only thing close is when i said i would consider moving framber if getting a top10 prospect in all of baseball...

Not an ed wade move...

 

Nov 20, 2007 - Signed Geoff Blum (IF) as a free agent

Nov 30, 2007 - Signed Kazuo Matsui (IF) as a free agent

Dec 12, 2007 - Traded Matt Albers (P), Troy Patton (P), Dennis Sarfate (P), Luke Scott (OF) and Mike Constanzo (IF) to Bal-A for Miguel Tejada (IF)

Dec 14, 2007 - Traded Chad Qualls (P), Juan Gutierrez (P) and Chris Burke (IF) to ARI-N for Jose Valverde (P)

Dec 27, 2007 - Signed Darin Erstad (OF) as a free agent


Feb 20, 2008 - Signed Shawn Chacon (P) as a free agent

Jul 22, 2008 - Traded Chad Reineke (P) to SD-N for Randy Wolf (P)

Jul 30, 2008 - Traded minor leaguer Mike Cusick (IF) to NY-A for LaTroy Hawkins (P)

Dec 3, 2008 - Signed Mike Hampton (P) as a free agent

Dec 18, 2008 - Signed Aaron Boone (IF) as a free agent

Mar 20, 2009 - Signed Ivan Rodriguez (C) as a free agent

Mar 31. 2009 - Traded Drew Sutton (IF) to CIN-N for Jeff Keppinger (IF)

Dec 9, 2009 - Traded three minor leaguers to FLA-N for Matt Lindstrom (P)

Dec 10, 2009 - Signed Brandon Lyon (P) as a free agent

Jan 9, 2010 - Signed Brett Myers (P) as a free agent

 

What is this?

 

If the three M's are still at the bottom of the lineup, I can't see the Astros going deep into the playoffs.You can't give playoff teams an inning off.

 

That still doesn't explain what all those numbers mean. the first 2 are clearly the records and the last is apparently the number of starting pitchers used, but what does 5-1-2 mean with respect to Houston.

 

Players traded:
Mark Melancon
Michael Bourn
Hunter Pence
Lance Berkman
Roy Oswalt
Chad Qualls
Brad Lidge
Dan wheeler

Notable players acquired:
Jed lowrie
Marwin Gonzalez
JA Happ
Jonathan Villar
Jose Valverde
Miguel Tejada
Michael Bourn
Mark Melancon
Ty wigginton
Latroy Hawkins

 

Bud Smith No-Hitter?

Apparently nope, that happened 9-3-01

 

Yes. To me Framber is a building Block not a trade piece. He needs a McCullers type extension.

 

I am really hoping Framber is not Keuchel 2.0 though...

Player A (age 27)
20-8 2.48 ERA 1.017 WHIP 8.4 K/9

Player B (age 27)
11-6 3.14 ERA 1.248 WHIP 8.4 K/9

Player A is Keuchel in 2015... Player B is Framber in 2021. Completely different players as the two don't register as each other comps on baseball reference... both rely on command but Framber has better stuff but Keuchel had much more success than Framber had at his point of his career-- but Framber is younger so maybe a big contract is worth it.

 

I don't disagree unless it's the reason they can't pay Tucker...

Framber Pro:
Lefty
Ground Balls

Framber Cons:
Oldest (of guys not JV or LMJ)
Closest to free agency

If the goal is to continue competing dealing Framber for a level prospect of an Austin Martin is justifiable. I wouldn't do just for prospects. I would need a top 10 level prospect for him (Volpe, Carroll, Lawler, Walker, Moreno, Mayer, etc.)

If Baltimore is willing to move Grayson at a discount and Henderson I would probably do, but highly unlikely Framber fetches that.

 

I prefer McCullers in Long. If Brown can show that stuff consistently in September, I'd put him in #3.

 

Jason Jennings debut shutout. Why that's important you'll have to ask the other guy.

 

Good to know that they are completely different players but you hope they don't turn out the same.

 

After reviewing his scouting report... why not? I get the 40-man roster crunch issues, but after watching him in Sugar Land and should have been on the team at the all-star break... this guy is the real deal... slipped in the draft because he came from a Div II school...

Scouting grades: Fastball: 65 | Curveball: 65 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 45 | Control: 45 | Overall: 55

Brown showed that he could maintain premium velocity in college and continued to do so over a long pro season in 2021, when he still sat in the mid-90s and hit 99 mph with some riding action on his four-seam fastball in September. But his most devastating weapon is a power curveball that sits in the low 80s and seems to drop off the table coming out of his high three-quarters arm slot. He also has a mid-80s slider with more horizontal action and a fading changeup with similar velocity that's most effective when he leverages it down in the zone.

While there's no question about Brown's pure stuff, he's still working on his feel for pitching. He doesn't fully trust his changeup or repeat his delivery consistently, though his control did improve during his two months in Triple-A. The Astros love his work ethic, citing the gains he made while pitching off a homemade mound in his backyard during the 2020 layoff.
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https://www.mlb.com/prospects/astros/hunter-brown-686613

From last year and he has improved since... -

Physical Description: Tall with good strength throughout frame. Not overly bulky but strong. Shows good flexibility even if he's a little stiff in his motions. Should maintain a high baseline of fitness with minimal maintenance. Near max body at present.

Delivery & Mechanics: Starts in the third first base side of the rubber. Pronounced rocker step, before elongated pause. He then contracts into his leg lift and drive, getting good front leg extension following through from a classic three quarters slot. Long arm stroke with extra length at the backend extension. Similar motion to Ian Anderson, with less pronounced extension.

Fastball: Above average to plus velocity for a starter sitting 92-96 mph and touching 97 mph at peak. Commands pitch well to all four quadrants. Not afraid to go inside and work in on the hands of righthanders. Effective to his gloveside but with less precision than he exhibits armside. Made mechanical adjustments during summer collegiate ball in 2018 that led to an immediate up tick in velocity. Ditched two-seamer he used in college for exclusively four-seamers upon entering the Astros organization. Since that point it has paid dividends as Brown's fastball has been a consistent bat misser up in the zone. Enough stuff and command to play at plus. Grade: 60

Curveball: Brown began throwing the curveball in game upon the Astros request. While it was not a brand new pitch to him, it was mostly used in bullpens and side sessions prior to 2019. Since then the pitch has progressed tremendously seeing usage on par with his slider as the 2019 season came to a close. The confidence he has in throwing it shined through, and for good reason. It's a hard-breaking, bat misser; a high spin pitch with significant vertical drop in the 80-84 mph range. It's a hammer by all accounts. We're taking some liberties here but reports indicate this is at minimum an above average pitch. Grade: 55

Slider: Sweepy slider at 84-85 mph touching 86-87 mph at times. Hard breaking pitch that he can bend through the backdoor. Good feel for the zone but inconsistent shape, some of which might be by design. His best shape is a high spin efficiency version with a near 9 o'clock spin axis, meaning it moves perfectly sweepy. This style of pitch is not typically conducive to swings and misses, but Brown's above average velocity allow it to play. Grade: 50

Changeup: Clear fourth pitch, but a steady part of his arsenal dating back to his amateur days. Average velocity in the 80-82 mph band, giving him good separation from his fastball. Limited feel for pronating, inconsistent arm side run. Will show average or better shape frequently enough to earn a fringe average grade. Astros asked Brown to throw more changeups in 2019, and based on the results the pitch ultimately was effective despite its inconsistencies. Grade: 45

Control and Command: Below average command profile with fringe average control. Learning the best way to deploy the entirety of his arsenal from a sequencing standpoint. Limited exposure to high level talent due to division II college background. Struggled at times to adapt to a higher quadrant plan of attack and newer points of emphasis within his sequencing (curveball and changeup) early in his professional debut. This is best exemplified by his walk rate of 24.6% over his first six appearances with Tri-Valley. Over his final six appearances from August 2nd until September 1st Brown settled in, dropping his walk rate to a respectable 8.9%, accompanied by a jump in strikeout rate to an elite 42.2%. Now to be clear we're talking two 12 inning sample sizes, but it's a clear example of a step forward in stuff. Fringe average control with below average command. Control: 45 | Command: 40

Overall: Arguably Houston's best pick of the last several years; plucked from Division II Wayne State, Brown took tremendous strides under the tutelage of the Astros player development machine. He improved his fastball shape and plan of attack toward a style more conducive to missing barrels in pro-ball. He improved and deepened his secondary offerings, adding a potential plus pitch in his curveball, while simultaneously committing to using his changeup in uncomfortable counts. The growth even within a short sample has been tremendous. Reports from the summer and fall back up these claims squarely positioning Brown as a potential breakout candidate in 2021. A starter's body and arsenal Brown has taken strides to improve his feel and command leading to encouraging results. Whether this holds true through his first test of full season ball is another question. Realistic Backend starter profile with the upside to slide into a mid-rotation OFP by the end of 2021.

OFP: 50
Role: 50 - #4 - #5 SP or Average High-Leverage Reliever
Risk: High​

https://www.prospectslive.com/scoutingreports/hunter-brown