Dude not once will you actually debate the technical merit of your assertions in terms of actual on court scheming. Nothing Green does Jabari can't do if he had the talent to do it. How many times have you seen Jabari get the ball in the perimeter have a screen set for him, the defense switches and Jabari is scared to do a simple one on one with a mismatch defender because he is affairs of putting the ball down on the floor? Nothing afraid does Jabari can't do himself in the offense if he had the talent and confidence to do it. The offensive system for the Rockets sucks but it sucks a lot more for people who lack self creation talent. There is no "building around Green" in our offensive scheming. This is simply a read and react offense which means people who put the ball on the floor are going to succeed more. Again, systemically we literally see the shot profile of Smith Jr vs Green. Smith Jr takes a lot more percentage of his fgs as set open shots and STILL is less efficient than Green.
Dude not once will you actually debate the technical merit of your assertions in terms of actual on court scheming. Nothing Green does Jabari can't do if he had the talent to do it. How many times have you seen Jabari get the ball in the perimeter have a screen set for him, the defense switches and Jabari is scared to do a simple one on one with a mismatch defender because he is affairs of putting the ball down on the floor. Nothing Green does Jabari can't do himself in the offense if he had the talent and confidence to do it. The offensive system for the Rockets sucks but it sucks a lot more for people who lack self creation talent. There is no "building around Green" in our offensive scheming. This is simply a read and react offense which means people who put the ball on the floor are going to succeed more. Again, systemically we literally see the shot profile of Smith Jr vs Green. Smith Jr takes a lot more percentage of his fgs as set open shots and STILL is less efficient than Green. And this team sucks because it's 9man rotation is younger than the UofH Cougars. Tate is our most experienced ver who gets playing time. Tate...
Also Jalen had the same treatment his rookie year where he was stand in the corner player. But unlike Jabari, Green when given the opportunities as a rookie with the ball in his hands he didn't pass it off when defenses switched on the pnr. Hence why even in Green's rookie year he nearly doubled Jabari's unassisted rate and still was 5 percentage pts better in scoring efficiency.
That’s wrong. Jabari can create shots. It’s different type of creation, Green can get separation using footwork, Smith has length to shoot over people, and if that forces overplay, he can get a step. Let’s see what the new coach installs next year, and who will be the primary, secondary option, etc.
Jabari has a 26% unassisted fgm rate. Green as a rookie was at 50%. Now he's at 60%. In both those season Green has a higher ts% than him especially his rookie year. When someone says they can self create well I need evidence of "headroom". Where is the headroom for Jabari to jump past 50% self creation when his ts% is already significantly lower career wise than Green's? Shooting over people isn't working because Green, a 6'5" guard is more efficient than a 7ft dude who has 3/4ths of his offense generated through assists?
Sengun fans at least have an argument that Sengun can expand his role more because his efficiency is already high. There is headroom for him to expand his role even more.
Shooting over people seems to be working just fine now that he has gotten out of his own head, or through whatever was plaguing him for most of the year. Dude was just bricking open shots that he had no excuse missing.
@SamFisher what is the outcome if this year Jabari was Williams age and Williams was Jabari’s age. If reversed that would be a 4 year difference. How would the effect your opinion on the future of the two players? Or, are you 100% taking that into account and if that were the case you would have the same judgement and could tell that Williams is already the better nba prospect after one season?
That's a good question. JW is a better player now, also a more versatile player, can do more things at an average or better level than Smith Jr Can Smith in 2 years become as or more multidimensional than Williams? Will he add a true drive to the rim game, become a better passer etc It's definitely possible. Is it probable - 50% or more? I would guess no, but without much certainty. Regarding Smith Jrs mini surge recently - I'd rather it be more like vs Indiana or NO and it be a product of him finding his stroke from beyond. That's a more portable skill than the dribble up 15 footer.
For starters, Williams is more of a SG, SF. Williams goes to the rack ferociously, his first step isn't bad. Bari plays like a SF but he really is a PF whose stretch qualities are mediocre, streaky at best. His bag is limited, he is just tall and a defender. Maybe in 2 years, Jabari can shoot better but I am not sure you can change who he is as a tweener.
Smith scouting report before the draft https://www.si.com/nba/thunder/draft-coverage/2022-nba-draft-jabari-smith-scouting-report Improvement Areas: - On-Ball Creation / Isolation Play - Playmaking / Shot Selection so what do we do to make life easier for the poor rookie? We have a dumba$$ coach who, i been saying doesn't even consider him an offense option for the better part of the season with even admitting to not designing any plays for him and we have a guard who is roleplaying as a pg. Now if u don't have a pg to playmake for him and a coach to have plays that allows an efficient shot, u will see what smith is doing, basically rushing whatever shot he can when he's open/contested. Smith doesn't suck, he just suffers from what every youngsters so far encounters under the silas regime which is playing alongside a shtty offense ran by a shtty pg with an incompetent coach who doesn't know how to make his rookie have success in the league Smith needs someone to set him up, go get a fking pg/coach and u will see him play better.
At 6'10 how is Jabari a tweener exactly? Dude can play as a small ball center he is the opposite of a tweener.
Jabari doesnt need to be set up, he needs to get locked in the gym and work out his mental shooting woes. Blaming the coach is just wrong as if you look at his stats Jabari is bricking wide open shots and has an assisted rate of over 70%. He id already getting set a ton, he just aint converting on his shots thats nobody's fault but his own.
Well, I didn't coin the phrase but whenever a big guy is playing like a mouse below the rim instead of an elephant and basically becomes a pure jump shooter. There is probably another term for it but it ain't positive if he can't play like a big and when he is ice cold shooting the rock. It's really clear that he didn't learn enough post game or went away from it in his youth. A bad guard possessing a big's body. If a near 7 footer cannot finish strong frequently then there is definitely something wrong and when his finesse game is just mediocre then a lot more wrong is coming his way.
Lol Harden, LBJ and Westbrook even played small ball Center. That is not a regular position. Harden falls back to his standard SG and then PG his strong suit. IMO Jabari doesn't have a strong position yet.
2 years? If he doesn't start shooting at least at the league average from distance NEXT SEASON, he's pretty much a bust. His stretch qualities are not supposed to be mediocre. They are supposed to be his core value. Your looking at a guy's rookie season to judge his shooting abilities, on a dysfunctional team no less, is not really fair. A lot of good shooters don't shoot well in their first year in the league. He has begun to shown some flashes lately. Let's see what he does next year.
Sorry, meant to say 2 years because Jalen Williams is 2 years older. Folks here emphasized on how young Bari was and used it as excuse. League average stretch ability isn't bad, league average is around 37% that's pretty high for my taste. Shooting is not something you could fall back on, it's really not a constant but an XYZ factor.
I mean in terms of rebounding, and rim protection Jabari is definitely a legit 4 in the NBA. I think in the modern NBA your defense and size determines your position more than your offense. Jabari lacks the weight right now to be a true 4-5 on defense, everything else he's there. On offense he's going to be forever shooting jumpshots
That's what I am worried about, his dad didn't teach him much else besides shooting, boxing out and how to switch to another dude.
