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[2022 NBA Draft/1-3] Jabari Smith Jr., F, Auburn

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 23, 2022.

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Do you like the selection of Jabari Smith?

Poll closed Jun 23, 2023.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. MystikArkitect

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    Yes he does. All the time. I've often heard audible "****!" after he misses a bunny or a shot. People overreacting to the struggles of a 19 year old being coached by what might be the worst staff in the history of the NBA are funny. For reference the Warriors when Curry was drafted went 29-53, (Curry draft), 26-56, 36-46, 23-43. They had Don Nelson, Keith Smart and Mark Jackson as coaches during that stint. Then Kerr came in and they won 67 games. Jackson went on to win 47 games, 51 games (Curry's 5TH YEAR) before getting fired. Kerr took over and won 67 games.
     
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  2. Francis3422

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    Ive seen plenty this year to be optimistic about his offense. He shot well from range toward the end of year. I know that data is sandwiched between **** but his shot looked great for a bit at least.

    The form on his free throw, and mid range jumpers is also sturdy and supplemented by height. Ive seen him make incremental strides in attacking the basket as well. The foundation is there.

    I have a feeling that if he were shooting 15 times a game we would see his percentages rise a bit.
     
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  3. SamFisher

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    These are all good things if he were the 23rd overall selection, but we thought we were getting Paolo up until draft night.

    FWIW, he was averaging 12+ FGA game early in the season and it had no impact on his shooting.

    At least he's better around the basket now, especially compared to Tari.
     
  4. HP3

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    This is like the lowest bar to clear in the history of the NBA LOOOOOOOOOOOL

    Still love those guys haha.
     
  5. Francis3422

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    I was the head of the Banchero bus. I get it. That isn’t where we are though. I have no problem using the third pick (when Paolo isnt available) on an elite defender with plus rebounding ability that has the offensive potential and character Smith has. I’m pretty convinced building around Sengun is the way and Smith fits that. Sengun is not Kanter.

    I get that you are glass half empty and believe me, OIget it. But I dont know if I would feel much better with Cade. Strangely, I think we are on the optimal road as long as we bring in a legit coach (and maybe gm).
     
  6. apollo33

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    I don't know man, I don't trust Smith to make layups either, I hold my breath everytime he get an offensive rebound
     
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  7. JayGoogle

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    Dirk shot worse for his rookie year and you can look at a lot of shooters that took a while to adjust, it really isn't that abnormal.

    Also, Bari is pretty dominant on defense pretty damn consistently. Especially for a 19 year old rookie, so you're wrong on not being dominant on any aspect. His one on one defense is at times outstanding. I know it doesn't show up in the box score and it can be hard for people to see if the team defense sucks but the team realizes it and trust me, the players and coaches know about it.

    I mean, if you think a rookie average 20+ppg on efficient shooting, great defense, 3rd in rebounding and blocks for a rookie wouldn't be an outstanding rookie season then I don't know what to tell you. It would be better than Paolo's rookie season since he's not giving you as much as Jabari is on the boards and on defense. If he were making his open shots at a good clip he'd easily be at 20ppg or over it.
     
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  8. JayGoogle

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    Well, its fine being concerned and criticizing him people should just not downplay his age.

    I think everyone knows he has to shoot better, I'm sure he knows that as well, but we should refrain from judging him as a finished product because it is very very likely that he is not. If we're going into future seasons with this then yeah, I'm concerned, right now though I'm not at all concerned. I don't expect rookies to come in and dominate, SOME do, SOME do not. Those that do not doesn't mean they never will.
     
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  9. arno_ed

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    I do agree. But I really do not understand why silas does not run a couple of plays for him early in the games for a midrange shot. He generally makes them, and that build confidence. That being said Silas does not een plays to get players easy shots so it is not that surprising.
     
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  10. JayGoogle

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    I think also people are wrong to assume that any of these guys would look better on this team than they do on other teams.

    Paolo would definitely see less of the ball here with Jalen, KPJ, and Sengun to share it with, would not get the usage he gets as a rookie in Orlando, and might as a result look a bit worse. He's their featured guy there along with Wagner. Yall think KPJ and Green are just not going to shoot as much and give way to Paolo? Look at how long its taken for Green to do that with just Sengun.

    He also would not save this team from being a bottom 5 team in the NBA.

    At the end of the day it really doesn't matter because we couldn't draft Paolo unless we traded up (which no one wanted to do) and I'm sure every team would have drafted Jabari at 3.

    I mean you are right, all the people complaining about Jabari need to show that they were actually AGAINST drafting him at 3. If not, they can't continue to go on about the organization drafting him at 3 since it made all the sense in the world to do so.
     
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    People cite age, it's definitely valid.

    But, everybody who is drafted (or at least, most high draft picks) is 18-19 years old now. In the past it used to be a marker of precocious ability - a Kobe, a LeBron, Moses Malone.

    Current era reminds me of the early-mid 00's a bit, when for every Kobe or Tyson Chandler or Kevin Garnett there's a Kwame Brown or a Nikolas Tskitshvili or Desagana Diop
     
  12. chenjy9

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    I wouldn't mind it if they made it so that you had to have either 4 years of collegiate experience or 4 years of professional league experience.
     
  13. robbie380

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    He’s rating out as a very good defensive player as a skinny 19 year old. We can’t act like he’s shown absolutely nothing this year.

    He’s clearly not tracking toward superstar status but he could definitely be Al Horford level.
     
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  14. JayGoogle

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    I mean I agree but...I always challenge you guys to look up those busts rookie seasons. They were....bad. Terrible. It was clear that not only were these guys bad but that they offered exactly nothing at all to their team. I mean look at Diop's and Kwame's rookie season, fairly compare them to Smith. Those guys combined couldn't do what he's doing now.

    Jabari right now today is starting on some teams (I admit, very few, just the other bad teams) but is coming off the bench for plenty of teams. I could easily see him finding a role on most teams just because of his length and defense and how agile he is using it.

    Like if we want to compare him to other busts, fine, then look at their numbers and see that his rookie season isn't terrible. He's just a guy struggling to find any offensive consistency which isn't unheard of.

    And maybe that is him, maybe he'll grow to being a defensive specialist that can finish and average 10ppg for his career, but he definitely has room to grow. He's definitely an NBA player.

    While it would have been great if he came in torching the league looking like Durant with Defense, while that would have been great its clearly not happening. All we can do is hope he works hard to get the best of his talent and we have the right coaches to help him reach the potential a #3 pick should have.
     
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    Do you think it is unlikely Jabari has a better career than Tyson Chandler?
     
  16. SamFisher

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    I think he'll be better than Eddy Curry, wasn't Tyson a DPOY guy? it's hard to get that these days.
    I think he's way more skilled than a lot of those early 00's bust teens, it's just that players overall (IMO) are way more skilled these days, the bar is raised.

    We're well past the days where "it's the handchecking" could credibly be used to make the 1990's crew to claim eternal supremacy.
     
  17. kubli9

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    I'm not giving up on Jabari by any means, but Tari has earned the starting PF spot with his play.
     
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  18. RasaqBoi

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    When ppl were saying he was a 6”10 Klay
    Lol
     
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  19. Phillyrocket

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    For all the Jabari b****ing he outplayed Barnes tonight.
     
  20. mario_v

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    Jabari is a constant reminder of who we were so close to drafting.

    It’s been so long since he had a good game. I don’t think he’ll be a bust but he certainly will not be a star.
     

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