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2022 Midterms

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Xerobull, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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  2. Commodore

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    Yeah but how do you run on issues you poll terribly on?

    The least bad option is to try and change the subject to things like abortion/democracy
     
  3. Rocket River

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    Do what the Republicans do . . . . blame someone else

    Here in Texas . . the Dems are getting hit with weak borders and revolving door criminals
    I seriously think they should be saying. . .THAT HAPPENED ON ABBOT's WATCH plus he tried to freeze your grandma to death

    Dems letting criminals go free . .. well the Republicans are ensuring those criminals have access to guns!!!

    They HAVE to do something different cause the same ole same ain't cutitng it

    Sometimes the Dems seem so incompetent that it seems deliberate
    I look at the dems like:
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    Rocket River
     
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  4. RocketsDraftTV

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    Will all the votes be counted tomorrow night
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Exactly, wait, you have had 27 years in power to fix the border and haven't done it yet?

    You have had 8 years to fix the gun problem and you made it worse.

    Time for these liars to go...they are only stealing money from Texans and lining their own pockets.

    DD
     
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  6. Major

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    Ignoring the GOP laws that prevent that, Republicans have already filed lawsuits to also prevent vote counting tomorrow.
     
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    Like if someone actually understood the entire thread of this comment, they would see how absurd and damaged the GOP voting base is.

    This dude is literally b****ing about vote counts not being done the night of when almost every GOP state controlled legislature explicitly made laws to delay vote counts especially mail on vote counts.

    It's scary and funny at the same time that groups of humans with functional brains can be this deceived this easily.
     
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  8. T_Man

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    LOL... You said "Tunnel"

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  9. JuanValdez

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    I do agree with you that no one should be taking voting advice from Elon Musk, regardless of the merit of the advice. However, recognize that many people will be swayed by his advice. Just like he can use his public comments to impact Tesla's stock price, he can also have some incremental impact on elections. His advice is unwelcome, but I don't know I'd call it dumb of him to influence elections for his personal benefit.
     
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  10. Invisible Fan

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    **** Elon.

    We're better than that!

    Only Ja Rule and Jay Z tells me how to vote!
     
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  11. Space Ghost

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    Now you know how I feel when I have some woke celebrity like LeBron James and other actors tell me how I should vote. Why does the media glorify a celebrity's opinion but when it's the opposite side, it's bad? Republicans do this too.
     
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  12. Os Trigonum

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    Will Biden And The Dems Finally Get It?
    Their far-left record has made the far right more electable.

    https://andrewsullivan.substack.com...xfZs5TtEXRhOWj1uEqIIVqKZHi6cGrciUxFDA7hN9lOBE

    excerpt:

    So guess what? I’m going to vote for the Republican and the most conservative Independent I can find next Tuesday. And I can’t be the only Biden and Clinton and Obama voter who’s feeling something like this, after the past two years.

    There was no choice in 2020, given Trump. I understand that. If he runs again, we’ll have no choice one more time. And, more than most, I am aware of the profound threat to democratic legitimacy that the election-denying GOP core now represents. But that’s precisely why we need to send the Dems a message this week, before it really is too late.

    By “we,” I mean anyone not committed to the hard-left agenda Biden has relentlessly pursued since taking office. In my view, he and his media mouthpieces have tragically enabled the far right over the past two years far more than they’ve hurt them. I hoped in 2020 that after a clear but modest win, with simultaneous gains for the GOP in the House and a fluke tie in the Senate, Biden would grasp a chance to capture the sane middle, isolating the far right. After the horror of January 6, the opportunity beckoned ever more directly.

    And yet Biden instantly threw it away. In return for centrists’ and moderates’ support, Biden effectively told us to get lost. He championed the entire far-left agenda: the biggest expansion in government since LBJ; a massive stimulus that, in a period of supply constraints, fueled durable inflation; a second welfare stimulus was also planned — which would have made inflation even worse; record rates of mass migration, and no end in sight; a policy of almost no legal restrictions on abortion (with public funding as well!); the replacement of biological sex with postmodern “genders”; the imposition of critical race theory in high schools and critical queer theory in kindergarten; an attack on welfare reform; “equity” hiring across the federal government; plans to regulate media “disinformation”; fast-track sex-changes for minors; next-to-no due process in college sex-harassment proceedings; and on and on it went. Even the policy most popular with the center — the infrastructure bill — was instantly conditioned on an attempt to massively expand the welfare state. What on earth in this agenda was there for anyone in the center?
    more at the link
     
  13. B-Bob

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    Good post. I never doubted he would have influence on people, even if I would rather he did not and even if I would rather not hear about it from random tech types of any stripe. And I agree it's not "dumb" for him to act in what he sees as self-interest in terms of his businesses. I just think the old saw of "shared governance" has a bit of a different light at present -- it feels antiquated, like Reagan and Tip O'Neill hashing things out over a strong drink. Oh well.
     
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    Yeah, to my credit, I literally thought, "This is how he feels when Lebron or Steve Kerr say ... yadda yadda." And not to pick nits, but is it different when Elon owns the platform? I would care a lot less before he took over Twitter. I guess this would be like Adam Silver walking onto halfcourt of a highly-viewed game*, and telling everyone to vote for Democratic Congressional candidates.

    Celebrities like Lebron or various musicians are going to celebrity and share opinions. Owners of whole businesses or leaders who dominate whole sectors of the economy are usually a little more circumspect. But to be clear, he has every right to do it and it's on brand, from what I can tell; he seems to like attention. And he's going to develop quite a strong right-wing following... at least for a while.

    * = big hypothetical of the NBA having as many viewers of a game as Musk has followers. Ha.
     
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    I hope that people won't start throwing a hissy fit when election results take longer than the same day, and leads can and will likely change as more votes are counted. That isn't evidence of fraud.
     
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  16. Space Ghost

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    I do wish Musk would reign it in a bit, but we know Elon is going to be Elon, much like Trump is going to be Trump. The difference is Trump has very few redeeming qualities and is a net loss to humanity. They both like to bully their bullies.
     
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    It’s looking like repubs will take the senate. Is the election still rigged?
     
  18. riko

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    Yep, I think it’s actually going to be a major trouncing
     
  19. Commodore

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    I wonder what TX will do here.

     
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    The “Final Forecasts” that the so-called experts are putting out tonight are hilarious. These guys are so afraid of their own data yet try to seem so confident at the same time. The polling world is fundamentally broken. We only know the data from 16, 18, and 20 that tells us anything worth a damn.

    We do know though that billionaires have pumped a boatload of money into their infosphere to try and convince suburban swing voters (key to
    the 18 and 20 flip to Dems) that paying 13 cents more a gallon of gas is more important than your rights to control your body, and democracy in general.

    Also important to know that the Republicans have had one of the worst messaging strategies for swing voters I think I’ve ever seen. Starting with Rick Scott’s doing away with social security, to election denying, to federal abortion bans, and ending it all off with Paul Pelosi gay sex conspiracy theory hour and Trump 2024 announcement.

    The Dems in 18 all consistently with tight messaging ran on saving healthcare since if the GOP held the house they would have the votes to again try to destroy the ACA. That was good messaging and it worked. This year its all about abortion and Democracy. We’ll see if that works as well.

    The end result will rely on the same thing it always does though given that the swing states also happen to be where the Senate will be decided. Suburban women and high turnout with the African American community which brought Biden many of the swing states. If they retain that level of turnout it’ll be hard for the MAGA base to find new voters in their shrinking pool of boomer old angry white men. I think their hope is on white men of my age of younger that fall in line with the “Joe Rogan types” having a substantial number of Biden voters flip to MAGA over culture wars and gas prices. Hard to see that there is that many new voters there.

    Still… we’ll just have to see. It’s all about Dems turning out where they need to in those key states and areas of the state. I think Dems have enough turnout to hold the Senate but they find out that gerrymandering killed their chances with the House.
     
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