Of course its Democratic spin and now your spin. Democrats controlled the House of Representatives before this election and they, likely, won’t following this election, just because the margin of victory is less then some people thought it might be doesn’t make the fact the House of Representatives is passing into Republicans hands not a victory for the Republican party. Just because you thought you’d lose 4-0 and instead only lose 1-0 doesn’t mean you didn’t lose.
A couple of things. Democrats were going to lose. They knew it. The question was by how much. GOP started talking prematurely talking about how it wasn't going to be close. More than that, people started second guessing the Democrats and telling them all of the mistakes they made in campaign messaging before any results were in. Turns out that the Dems outperformed expectations. In fact, despite, Biden's low approval numbers, he did better than any first term president in midterm elections in the past 90 years. Nobody, including Democrats believed they would increase their seats in the House.
Losing 1-0 means that there is something to build on though. But I think you're saying this as if it doesn't matter. That the DNC held a lot more congress seats makes 2024 better for them. This will make it so winning back the house in 2024 is not as difficult than if they had lost by 30 seats or as the GOP hoped, 60 seats. So that's how it is a victory, because politics is an ever going game. If you can block the other party from having more power, that is a victory. That's half of the game actually.
I don't know man. Leading up to this election was RED WAVE RED WAVE, at least 30 seats! Then Dobbs happened and it was still "Ok, maybe they hold the Senate but still NO shot at Congress, RED WAVE!" Only now people are saying this was expected. I don't think even DNC leadership expected this. Dems are (unless they do retake the house) a few elections from still holding the house which was completely unthinkable until....until election night.
Get the **** outta here with that bullshit…if you voted for a heathen like Trump you’re about as Christian as my German shepherd. @cml750
the Astros were expected to sweep the Phillies, but instead lost two games. the Astros still won the World Series.
this is true, there is a lot of liberal sensationalism. That being said, there were stupid people that think the dobbs decision wouldn't play a role. When you have states that won't allow abortions in ectopic pregnancies (non-viable that only have potntial to kill the mother), or rape....you're going to drive a lot of people away. If you look at the upcoming generation who almost always lean liberal, it is pretty overwhelmingly skewed this time around. A bunch of old white self serving men are dictating policies. I am both socially and fiscally conservative but pushing the abortion issue that far would be one of the few things to sway me. God forbid something ever happened to a daughter or family member, she shouldn't have to carry her perpetrator's offspring because a couple of hours after the heinous act someone somewhere thinks its different than the skin cells were shedding typing on a keyboard. I think its profoundly stupid and ignorant to believe life begins at conceptions, but if your religious beliefs tell you that then keep it to yourself and stfu. Don't dictate other's lives on it. Lastly, biden is arguably worse than trump (who himself was the worst president of all time by a big margin even then), and people are still rebuking the republican message right now. I think it speaks volumes.
this was such a victory for Republicans that they’re all freaking and calling it a disaster…and infighting has already begun but hey, they narrowly took the House when they thought they were gonna gain 30+ seats and have a 53-47 GOP Senate so no Democratic victory here…LMAO
Did something happen in NV I didn’t know about cause it still sounds like Dems are likely to win NV and still could get another seat out of GA which negates one of Sinema/Manchin. That’s a huge win. Especially since a House majority without the Senate or presidency basically means nothing but having the power to hold show hearings. Hearings which nobody will care about if they are about the things MAGA GOP want to blab on about. The real win is the Senate because of appointments. The fact is the GOP should have won PA, GA, NV, and AZ easily if you look at the performance there vs other races without election deniers or candidates that hold guns to their wives head like a real Christian man does (@Astrodome).
The outstanding ballots to be counted are mostly from the Las Vegas area, which is going 2 to 1 for the Ds. if this holds (a very big if), the Ds will win/retain control of the Senate.
They haven't narrowly taken the house yet. They are projected right now to win 217 with the rest true toss ups. They will LIKELY win the house because they only need one of those tossups, but nothing is decided yet. The best analysts in the business all agree there is still a(n unlikely) path for the Dems to hold the house by a couple of votes. That reality, coupled with an absolute **** show of a leadership situation if they do win the house and the failure to take the Senate makes this nothing short of a disaster for Republicans who thought this should be their best election in years.
from what I’ve seen, if not for what happened in NY, Dems would be favored to win the House and be in control of all 3 levels of Congress
In a baseball series a win is a win. The Stros victory in game 5 by 1 run is the same value as game 4 by 5 runs. That’s not quite the situation in winning a congressional majority. Because this is politics expectations actually matter and the strength of the majority matters. I then last Senate this is why Manchin and a Sinema held such out sized power. Or how Theresa May’s majority in the UK parliament was ungovernable because of a small party in the DUP. a small majority by the Republicans in the House will be a majority and they will get the speakership, control committee assignments and the agenda. The problem is that given their own divisions it will be very difficult to govern. A speaker McCarthy will have to keep the MTG’s in line along with moderates. It might still be possible for Biden to cut deals with McCarthy on legislation if he needs to satisfy moderates. We could have a situation like in the late 90’s of the House simultaneously impeaching the President while also passing legislation the President favors. If Republicans don’t control the Senate that will be even larger as Biden will still be able to get judicial appointments through and as we say with the last two years of Trump that could still be very large. Also the ability of Democrats to hold onto and even flip some state houses is no small fear. As the USSC has given more power to states this means that a conservative nationwide agenda will be harder to enact.
That’s what I thought was happening at the moment so not sure where the notion is coming from that the GOP won the election (yet) by even a slim margin. The only people who “lose” by the MAGA GOP having a slim majority in the House with the Dems holding the Senate are the American people because there’s no chance in hell the House will pass bills that help the country and there’s a 110% chance they use their power to shut down the government in protest and Jack with the debt ceiling. Those shenanigans will actually help Democrats in 2024 so the Democrats actually “win” the most in this scenario although of course the Democrats that just want to help Americans are going to be disappointed that more legislation cannot get passed for 2 years.
