I would seriously overpay Grant Williams to get him away from the Celtics and to keep us away from a cancer like Brooks.
That's a weird comment. He is a better player than Green and you probably wouldn't give up Green for Jaylen Brown I'm guessing... But I understand he is a year older so he's not worth building around... For the record, his lightly guaranteed contract is the appeal to another team. So silly me for implying Green has the starting job over him...
Grant may not be as good as Brooks on D but he's an above average player on that end. I think he's literally Tate with 38% 3pt shooting. Given his familiarity with the system he seems more appealing to me than Brooks at all levels.
I'm feeling more and more in favor of the "just collect some solid bench veterans" route. Maybe even like 4 different guys and a couple of them will probably be pretty limited/situational. If we could get one guy on a tradable two year overpay like FVV, Middleton, Brook Lopez that seems like it would be fine, though I think it will be difficult to get the deal done. Some random names: Kyle Lowry Goran Dragic Ricky Rubio Derrick Rose Tyus Jones Jevon Carter TJ McConnell Josh Richardson Matisse Thybulle Torrey Craig Joe Ingles Troy Brown Chris Boucher Georges Niang Kelly Olynyk Drew Eubanks Mason Plumlee Mike Muscala Andre Drummond
Trade for Kelly Olynyk to backup Sengun instead of paying Brook Lopez big money to start over Sengun.
wtf does green or any other rocket have to do with your preposterous stance of not trading porter unless it’s for a star?? kindly give us an example of a star player you would want back in return for kpj lol
espn had us doing: FVV at 35M Brooks at 14M and BBrown at 12M idk what Lopez is commanding... but we got a few Garuba types we could move if we need a bit more wiggle room...
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article276659416.html Kyle Lowry’s Heat contract is due to pay him $29.7 million next season in the final season of a three-year deal. In reality, Lowry could end up costing the Heat tens of millions of dollars more than that, because of salary-cap implications. And that has the Heat considering multiple exit avenues with the veteran guard. According to two sources, the Heat has been giving thought to potentially using the waive-and-stretch provision on Lowry if Miami is unable to trade him, though a firm decision on that has not been made. That waive-and-stretch mechanism would allocate his remaining cap hit equally over three seasons. In other words, if the Heat goes the waive-and-stretch route, Lowry would have a cap hit of $9.9 million each of the next three seasons instead of $29.7 million next season, which would be his cap hit otherwise. The upshot of that: Miami’s 2023-24 salary cap commitments would shrink from $178.5 million to $158.5 million, below the $165 million tax line and the $182.5 million second apron, a threshold that carries significant restrictions, including the inability to sign buyout players who were making more than $12 million from the team that released them. That extra flexibility could allow the Heat to re-sign guard Gabe Vincent in the days ahead without paying an enormous tax. The downside of waiving and stretching Lowry: The $9.9 million cap hits in 2024-25 and 2025-26 would be burdensome, especially because the particularly onerous restrictions of surpassing the second apron take effect a year from now. If the Heat keeps Lowry beyond Sept. 1, Miami would need to hope that his contract could be parlayed into assets, perhaps at next February’s trade deadline should he remain on the roster that long. The path that would most benefit the Heat — aside from Lowry being used in a Lillard deal — would be finding a team that has the cap space to absorb Lowry’s contract while sending the Heat a lesser player making much less money. That path seems unlikely because the teams with cap space seemingly could use their space on more appealing options than Lowry. Five teams have more than $30 million in cap space: Houston at $60.9 million, San Antonio at $38.6 million, Sacramento at $35.6 million, Indiana at $32.2 million and Detroit at $30 million. If the Heat doesn’t include Lowry in a trade involving Lillard — and if Miami bypasses using the waive-and-stretch provision on him by the end of August — here would be some teams that hypothetically could be a match for Lowry under certain circumstances: Clippers (Covington, Morris and/or Mann) Jazz (Sexton and Olynyk) Raptors (Trent Jr. and Boucher) Spurs (McDermott and Graham) Pacers
Bias aside: - Brooks can play on both ends and we might get him at a bit of discount. Also offers that competition Ime Udoka wants as he's not handing the starting jobs to the young guys for free. - FVV is a All-Star and Champion at a position of need and is younger than Harden. Nothing else needs to be said. - Bruce Brown or Brook Lopez? Both have played big minutes on championship teams. Whats not to like? These moves make us a playoff team bare minimum with the growth of our core. Exciting times.
I’d do Brooks or Brown, not both (and brown would be my preference by a long shot, despite Brooks being a Rockets legend). I’m not sure why Brown would sign here for $12m when he could almost assuredly get that much from a contender via MLE, unless he is just looking for a place to start. Either way, $15m for Lopez won’t cut it. We’ll have to make some other moves, but it’s not insurmountable. I do think the three of them move the needle far more than most people think they would.
https://sports.yahoo.com/2023-nba-f...s-dominating-early-discussions-151510087.html Reaves still appears to be an option for the Rockets, although word has only grown in league circles about Houston’s chances of prying veteran point guard Fred VanVleet from Toronto. While staying with the Raptors still sounds like it’s on the table for both parties, Houston is prepared to offer VanVleet a very competitive deal, while all those whispers about a James Harden return have noticeably decreased in recent weeks. The Rockets, sources said, are considering short-term, high-salary contracts in order to land top-target free agents with their $61 million in cap space. It would take a maximum contract to ultimately lure VanVleet from Toronto, sources said, which would top out at two-years, $80 million. Dillon Brookscontinues to be mentioned by league personnel as the top wing on the Rockets’ radar, in addition to Brook Lopez ranking as Houston’s primary big man option. Keep an eye on the Rockets possibly trading bouncy forward K.J. Martin to create further financial flexibility. The Rockets have held an increasing number of trade calls on Martin with several teams since the NBA draft, sources told Yahoo Sports. Atlanta, Phoenix and Brooklyn have been mentioned as Martin suitors dating back to the February trade deadline.
https://www.theringer.com/2023/6/27/23774588/2023-free-agency-preview-players-teams-to-watch Fred VanVleet, a.k.a. Steady Freddy Is VanVleet a smidge overrated? Possibly. There were 49 players who averaged at least 15 shots per game last season, and VanVleet’s 39.3 field goal percentage ranked 49th. Out of 77 players who drove the ball at least 500 times, his minus-1.82 quantified shooter impact was 73rd. De’Aaron Fox made 68.4 percent of his driving layups last year; VanVleet finished at 47.8 percent. An inefficient point guard is anathema to any head coach who craves efficient offense. He turns 30 in February, is undersized, and has logged a ton of minutes since becoming a full-time starter. But FVV is still surgical enough to nudge a contender over the top or shepherd a promising rebuild that could really use his organizational skills. He’s patient and sharp and always knows where his release valves are before he motors into the paint. If you’re open, VanVleet will find you. After the pass, he relocates quickly and won’t hesitate to skip it over to another open teammate. Possible contenders like the Lakers, Clippers, Sixers, and Mavericks should keep their eyes peeled. Upstarts like the Spurs, Rockets, Jazz, and possibly Magic would also work. Picture VanVleet as Victor Wembanyama’s first NBA point guard, in lineups that have spacing and athleticism. It’s the type of role that could redefine how VanVleet is remembered if everything unfurls the way that the Spurs hope the next few years will. Teams that aren’t bad but definitely aren’t good, like the Bulls, should see VanVleet as a smooth rudder, though acquiring him won’t be easy. Which Path Will the Houston Rockets Take This Summer? Think of a ground-up rebuilding strategy like an attempt to retrieve a flawless diamond that’s stuck in the middle of a thick block of ice. Some organizations are forbearing enough to place it under a heat lamp and wait for it to melt. Others strap dynamite to the sides and accidentally blow their prize to bits. The most satisfying path—that balances expediency with progress—is where Houston hopes to be, pickax in hand. The Rockets have spent the past three years ambling their way through the honeymoon phase of a total renovation. Now, with Ime Udoka replacing Stephen Silas as head coach and a hasty owner wanting last season’s hapless and unsightly product to transform into a respectable outfit, it’s a choose-your-own-adventure type of summer in Houston. Patience is a luxury. It can also be useless when applied to a roster that’s all bones and no pulse. Houston has a few potential All-Stars on its roster, but “Which ones are worth building around?” is an open-ended question, especially with Amen Thompson and Cam Whitmore now thrown into the pot. With attractive rookie-scale contracts, draft picks, and an ability to open up $60 million in cap space, there are myriad options at Houston’s disposal. Some are more reckless than others, fast tracks to raising the short-term floor as the long-term ceiling collapses. The simplest is filling their cap space with a veteran free agent or two: James Harden, Khris Middleton, Brook Lopez, Kyrie Irving, Fred VanVleet, Dillon Brooks, Cam Johnson, Austin Reaves, Grant Williams, and so many others are affordable. A more aggressive approach would be to package future picks—they own Brooklyn’s first-round picks in 2024 and 2026 and owe a pair of top-four-protected picks to Oklahoma City in the same years—with young talent and exchange them for more established stars who are currently under contract. In theory, think someone like Damian Lillard, Jaylen Brown, Towns, Pascal Siakam, Julius Randle, or Paul George. Deandre Ayton doesn’t rise to that level but shouldn’t be ruled out as a potential target, regardless of what Phoenix is currently saying about his trade status. The possibilities are endless for the Rockets. It’ll be interesting to see just how insistent they are about shaking things up.
The past 3 years around 55% of FVVs shots were from 3 point range (making around 35% of them) - thats a big reason for his 40% overall FG%. Around 20-25% of his shots were close to the basket. Yes, his percentages are not as high as you'd want for a max player, but at least he seems to be taking the right kind of shots. With his 7 assists and close to 2 steals last season, he could really help us transition from a tanking team to a team with a winning culture. I am not too worried about overpaying - he shouldn't be part of our long term plans anyways and we don't need to maneuver the cap right now. We need to be able to remain flexible in the next two offseasons. I don't think that it makes a huge difference, if he makes 35 or 40 million per year.
I dont understand why Jevon Carter doesnt get more love as a PG target. 27 year old, 5 year vet, career 40% three point shooter with a 3 to 1 assist/to ratio. He played for Pop disciple Budenholzer in Milwaukee (where he started 39 games for the #1 seed). Former defensive player of the year in college. He is the perfect placeholder for Amen Thompson.
https://www.masslive.com/celtics/20...or-celtics-examining-7-potential-suitors.html Houston has more money to spend than any other team but MassLive has not heard any whispers about the team making a run at Williams. They could certainly use another big but Ime Udoka and this team’s front office have their sights set on bigger names than Williams by all accounts. Maybe a team to watch if they strike out on bigger names but they don’t seem to be a big threat.
