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2021 Training Camp Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Fantasma Negro, Jul 28, 2021.

  1. htownrox1

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    Lol. Texans are such a joke.
     
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    Kinda pissed away any leverage with the cases and the Texans not willing to take a bad deal just to move off of him. His agency is trying to run the Jalen Ramsey play, but it (so far) ain't working.
     
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    You see how bad the press is for the Texans right now, imagine if they got less than what the media deems "fair market value" for that deviant, they'd be castigated as if there was a building full of racist, woman-beating, A.I.Ds infected pedophiles on kirby
     
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    This is Caserio, not O'Brien. The whole "Texans can be swindled into any deal" narrative doesn't exist anymore. Caserio is not under any pressure to win this season. Matter of fact, they can benefit from tanking this season. They can wait it out.
     
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    Texans camp observations: Brandin Cooks’ awkward fit, Deshaun Watson’s return and preseason plans
    https://theathletic.com/2761195/202...t-deshaun-watsons-return-and-preseason-plans/

    After being part of three trades, Brandin Cooks knows how to succeed in different environments. But this season offers the receiver his toughest challenge yet.

    Unlike Deshaun Watson, Tom Brady and Drew Brees, Cooks’ new quarterback is not elite. Heck, unlike the 2018 version of Jared Goff, who went to a Super Bowl with Cooks, the Texans’ new quarterback is not even very good.

    Tyrod Taylor ranked 32nd in The Athletic’s 2021 Quarterback Tiers. The journeyman QB finished solidly in the fourth tier, 29 spots behind Brady, 27 behind Watson and 13 behind Goff. Brees, had he not retired, would likely have placed far ahead of Taylor, too.

    Cooks praised Taylor’s work ethic and said he’s enjoyed “being able to hear how he sees things when we’re going through plays,” but the two have yet to form an ultra-productive connection in camp. Though Taylor found Cooks down the right sideline for a deep completion in Saturday’s intrasquad scrimmage, it was one of the rare chunk plays Taylor has completed — to anyone — all camp.

    Training camp is a small sample, but regular-season stats back up the notion that the Texans’ new quarterback and best receiver might be an awkward match. Since entering the NFL in 2014, Cooks ranks seventh in receptions gaining 20-plus yards; Taylor, on the other hand, finished 17th among 18 qualified quarterbacks in completions of 20-plus yards while starting for the Bills from 2015 to 2017.

    Taylor tried pushing the ball downfield during his time with the Bills. In fact, during that span, his 9.46 air yards per attempt and share of throws 20-plus yards downfield (15.6 percent) are both higher figures than any QB has posted while playing with Cooks. But Taylor, who relies on his legs to be effective, also didn’t throw the ball very often in Buffalo, and his deep balls weren’t very accurate. From 2015 to 2017, he completed 32.6 percent of throws that were at least 20 yards downfield. That ranked 25th out of 40 qualified quarterbacks. It’s only a slightly better deep-ball completion rate than Goff posted (32.1 percent) during a down year in 2019, when Cooks caught a career-low 42 passes for 583 yards.

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    Despite the high air yards per attempt in Buffalo, Taylor’s reputation for being conservative became more apparent in his play with each passing year. His interception rate successively dropped in his three seasons with the Bills, but so did his air yards per attempt. During Taylor’s final season in Buffalo, when David Culley served as the Bills’ QBs coach, the Bills ranked 26th in passing DVOA. That season, Taylor threw into tight windows at the NFL’s ninth-lowest rate and averaged 8.57 air yards per attempt — lower than Brady’s and Watson’s averages during their single seasons with Cooks.

    “We’re going to do what the defense gives us,” said Culley, now in his first year as Texans head coach. “We’re going to do what they allow us to do. If that means getting it down the field, we’ll get it down the field. I do remember this: Prior to getting there in Buffalo with him, the year before, they were one of the better teams at getting the ball down the field. So obviously that can be done, and he’s done that.”

    Cooks still put together 1,000-yard seasons with Goff and Brees, who did not throw deep balls with tremendous frequency. But the 2018 Rams and the Saints teams Cooks played on from 2014-16 all ranked in the top 10 in offensive DVOA. Brees is one of the most accurate quarterbacks ever, and a lot of play action made Goff’s life easier, as he threw into tight windows at the league’s seventh-lowest rate in 2018. Things likely won’t be so pretty for the Texans, whom The Athletic’s Sheil Kapadia placed last in his offensive rankings. Cooks is by far the Texans’ most established receiver, and if defenses choose, they could focus on locking him down and making Houston’s other skill position players beat them — a worthy gamble if the Texans rushing attack is again bad and doesn’t force opponents to stack the box.

    Of course, Cooks flourished despite these obstacles a year ago, when the Texans ranked last in rushing DVOA and receiver Will Fuller missed the final five games due to suspension. Thanks in part to an increased target share, Cooks was actually a more efficient receiver after Fuller received his suspension (2.55 yards per route run) than he was before (1.84).

    But even when everything around Cooks was bad, he at least had Watson, who is one of the NFL’s best deep-ball throwers and is capable of dissecting defenses over the middle — another area of the field Taylor has a reputation for being unable to exploit. According to Pro Football Focus and TruMedia, 15.4 percent of Cooks’ routes last season were crossing routes. Among 19 receivers with at least 80 receptions, that ranked seventh. On the Texans, only tight end Darren Fells and slot receivers Keke Coutee and Randall Cobb ran crossing routes at a higher rate.

    “Each year your team is going to be different, so you have to find ways to really play to your strengths and find ways to cover up your weaknesses,” said offensive coordinator Tim Kelly, who returns to call plays for the second straight year. “So, the nuts and bolts of the offense are going to be similar, but we’re going to put our own touches on it to take advantage of the different players we have in the room now.”

    On a roster with so many new players, Cooks is not just a holdover, but someone the Texans gave more short-term security to this offseason, when they converted $10 million of his 2021 base salary into a signing bonus. The Texans appear confident Cooks can adapt to a new quarterback this season, and perhaps again a year from now, when Cooks will be in the final season of his contract and Houston could have a first-round rookie under center.

    “I’ve been kind of doing that all my career,” Cooks said of learning to play with a new QB. “At the end of the day, I’ve just got to bring my expertise to the game and at the same time listen to what they like and adjust and be able to get on the same page.”

    Sounds simple enough, but the task has never appeared harder.
     
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    Watson watch and expectations for first preseason game

    Deshaun Watson returned to the practice field Monday, marking his first practice in a week and first practices in pads during all of camp.

    Before Monday, Watson was last seen practicing on Aug. 2, when he stood on the sideline with a trainer to discuss an apparent ankle/leg injury.

    Just as he did during previous practices, Watson took part in individual drills but not team drills. After five practice periods, he left the field and appeared headed for the team’s indoor practice facility. Watson later returned outside without his pads to watch the remainder of practice from the sidelines.

    Culley, who spoke to reporters prior to Watson taking the field Monday, has not said whether Watson will travel with the team to Green Bay, Wis., for Saturday’s preseason game against the Packers.

    According to Culley, the flow of the game will determine how the Texans divvy up reps at quarterback. Culley expects “most” of the team to participate in the game.

    “We have almost 50 new players, and the only way to find out is in game-type situations,” Culley said. “We’ve got some young guys that need to feel what it’s like to play in a game. That’s how we’re going to approach it. They will all at some point play during the preseason.”

    When the Texans last traveled to Green Bay for the preseason, in 2019, the team held joint practices with the Packers before the exhibition. Culley said the Texans didn’t schedule joint practices this year because the team “felt like we needed to find out what we’re all about because we’re so new.”

    “It was more important for us to get those reps with us and find out exactly what we are,” Culley said. “I’ve always enjoyed going against other teams, but in the situation that we’re in, it was best for us to just practice against ourselves.”

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    • The defensive line rotations will be one of the more interesting things to watch during the preseason. Based on practice reps, there appear to be no established starters among the group, and new defensive coordinator Lovie Smith might want to keep it that way. Consider how he divvied up snaps during his last run in the NFL, in 2014-15, when he was the Buccaneers’ head coach. During Smith’s first season in Tampa, defensive tackle Gerald McCoy played the most of anyone along the line, checking in on 60 percent of the defensive snaps. Only four of 14 defensive linemen who appeared in games for the Bucs that season played over 50 percent of defensive snaps. The next season, McCoy played nearly 73 percent of defensive snaps, but only one other defensive lineman cracked 50 percent. “That’s what’s good about this 4-3,” new edge rusher Shaq Lawson said. “… You plug in and out. You go hard for your five, six, seven plays, bring another D-lineman, he go hard, and you just feed off each other.”

    • Young defensive linemen Jacob Martin and Charles Omenihu have been two of the team’s most disruptive pass rushers of late. That’s good news for the Texans, who will need young players to step up if they have any chance of producing more pressure this season despite losing J.J. Watt.

    • Kahale Warring, the disappointing 2019 third-round pick, entered camp on the bubble and hasn’t done much to work his way off it. New tight ends Anthony Auclair and Ryan Izzo seem in better position than Warring to make the team. If the Texans choose to keep just three tight ends, I’m guessing they’ll be rookie Brevin Jordan, Jordan Akins and Pharaoh Brown. Brown recently returned to practice and has been arguably the best tight end in camp. He caught a touchdown up the seam from Taylor during Saturday’s scrimmage.
     
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  8. gucci888

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    Is playing his sole decision to make? I’m not so sure Texans brass will forgive and forget right off the bat.
     
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    Wonder if she offered an anal massage
     
  12. Fulgore

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    Just think if he stays and Texans win AFC South. Story of the year
     
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    Would you be happy if that happened?
    You would feel good about supporting a potential sexual assailant?
     
  14. Fulgore

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    Dude relax. Do you have proof everything that is reported is true? I’m a DW4 fan so I’m supporting him. If others don’t that’s cool too.
     
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    That’s fair. I was genuinely asking, not accusing.
    I’m still conflicted on if I’d support him if he stayed.
     
  16. evilhomer

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    How long before 610 starts reporting how many times Watson goes to the bathroom?
     
  17. Verbal Christ

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    did he finger bang her on the bleachers? Maybe she'll feel differently in a couple of weeks after she can process what happened to her.
     
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    Pretty sure he "seemed happier" because his GM is inching closer to a deal for trading him.
     
  19. Mr.Scarface

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    Works for Trump supporters, why not Texans' fans? Innocent until Proven Guilty.
     
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    Watson accepting reality is the first step. Texans brass don’t care about the lawsuits, only Watson’s availability to play or be traded.
     

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