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2021 NBA Finals: Phoenix Suns vs. Milwaukee Bucks

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Jul 3, 2021.

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Suns vs. Bucks

Poll closed Jul 7, 2021.
  1. Suns in 4

    5.0%
  2. Suns in 5

    12.5%
  3. Suns in 6

    41.3%
  4. Suns in 7

    15.0%
  5. Bucks in 7

    11.3%
  6. Bucks in 6

    11.3%
  7. Bucks in 5

    2.5%
  8. Bucks in 4

    1.3%
  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    It's not just that he wasn't healthy, I think his entire career went towards the end after that.
     
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  2. daywalker02

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    I am not a Giannis fan but Giannis is not like Shaq. At all.

    He does not care about the fame, the stars and being obnoxious on TV spewing things.

    On the court Giannis isn't as dominating as Shaq was.

    As for inspiration, I could see kids emulating Giannis, those kids that are tall, lanky and not blessed with the highest skills but a fit body. Why not?
     
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  3. DreamShook

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    it's all MDa's fault for playing players in a game right before the playoffs. mda always running players into the ground for no reason.
     
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    Spoiled for off-thread Rockets rant
    Luc would have drove on one ... like he gave us all year. He attacked close outs better than any player the Rockets had in the MDA era

    but he didn’t really even have to. What we needed was not having to play Ryno in the 3rd for a minus-11 in 8 minutes. We had a 15pt lead in 2nd Q when Foster no-called two of those misses. Despite the miss streak, just like in our 28-1 streak of Boring Wins, our defense could have taken us home ... but we had to play Ryno in a key stretch.

    Also don’t forget Game 1, that a healthy Luc could have helped us steal, but Scott Foster insured GSW got 13 more 2nd half free throws on a game tied at halftime, with Harden cooking, and MDA testing out Luc, but he was a visible negative. Then Foster steals those 3 threes from Harden in Game 7.
     
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  5. JW86

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    Booker plays well when others take the pressure off, but when the pressure is on him to deliver, he disappears. Had Booker at least tried to attack the basket he would've put some pressure on them. Foster did his thing for sure, that foul on Crowder and every single time Giannis went up and there was a slight touch, it was a foul. They didn't necessarily lose because of it, Bucks outplayed them, but still. Kaminsky is really funny, so unathletic, such a louzy player, looks like Droopy with those sad eyes. Didn't the Celtics or some team want to to give the Hornets 2 / 3 picks to MJ for Kaminsky?
     
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    they don’t have to last 10 years, but they often do last that long or even much longer, especially if we’re talking about becoming a contender and not just getting back to being some run of the mill playoff team…that is just the reality

    The Rockets received a #2 overall pick in Steve Francis, and a #1 overall pick in Yao Ming, and where did that take us?
     
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    and the teams were tanking for this guy lolololol
     
  8. bmelo

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    It takes idiot to state Giannis has no skills. Just because he dont do ruckerpark dribbles doesnt mean he has no skill
     
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    yep,

    btw , does this makes gsw 2018 title run lucky? (asking for a friend) (also remember there were many other injured players and stars that year around the league klove, kyrie, brogdon, gordon hayward, isaah thomas, etc)
     
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  10. plutoblue11

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    I agree with what you are saying, it's not common or likely for an inexperienced playoff team to go to a title, so quickly. Especially for a team, like the Suns. Though, I have to be fair, they hardly the only team or potential champion who may benefitted from a rash of injuries on the opponents side. It's been quite a few teams, who I believe would not have been champions, if all of their opponents were healthy in every round of playoffs. That aspect of the game happens routinely in every sport. It's technically not their fault in any regard.

    Moreover, for Phoenix, they've been pretty good team, this year. They were the #2 seed/#3 seed for a good stretch of the season and proved themselves, as well. They were never a paper champion or heavily favored for anything, but again not their fault. Moreover, they could easily end up in the championship, again and repeat, if they win out. That's very possible. Even with a healthy Nuggets, Lakers, or Clippers squads, I'm not exactly sure they would've beaten or even fared well against the Suns, even next year.
     
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    A Denver team with a healthy Jamal Murray (specifically the Playoff Murray we saw last year in the bubble) would have been pretty damn good matchup against Phoenix. Did the Suns sweep them this year? Damn right they did but it was obvious that the Nuggets lacked the offense needed to beat the Suns and that would have came from Murray.

    All that being said, however, I do agree with you that Phoenix is still a very good team. In terms of completeness (talent, depth, veterans, young guys, etc.) it's hard to argue they're not deserving of where they're at right now.
     
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    Chris Paul is killing the Suns.
     
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    I didn’t say it was impossible for that to happen, but I sure hope it’s not the case. If it is Stone is doing a poor job.
     
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    No freaking doubt. They don't lose when he is out of the line up in the playoffs. Monty Williams might as well sit him the rest of the playoffs. Stats don't lie.
     
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    Another great advantage for the Suns is ... cap space. They are in the lower half of the league as far as pay rolls are concerned. Oddly enough, CP3 may bolt to another team and it would be exceptionally lower. I'm not entirely sure he stays, even if they win. But, if he does. I don't think it'll be substantially more than what he is making right now, he could come back at a slight discount (doubt it).

    Lastly, they don't need another superstar. Even if CP3 leaves, they still have a pretty good starting 5. Payne has a great chemistry with the rest of team at PG. They are really in sync as a team. Very interesting team to watch for the future.
     
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    Lol because even those kids will want to be like someone who's more skilled. Like Curry or Lebron.
     
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    His game is based on athleticism much more than any other top 10 player in the league. He's the least skilled player there. His only move is barreling towards the rim.
     
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    They are lucky, but not because of injuries its cuz of Kd.
     
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    Remember Ben Wallace, the dude that represented the Pistons and got the first pick in the draft?

    At least he isn't Ben Wallace and there are tons of kids that are like Ben Wallace.

    Blue collar minded.
     
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  20. STR8Thugg

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    Dude, you have 35 THOUSAND posts on a website since 2012, where you clearly are too poor to contribute even a few dollars, and I'm the loser in the .gif above?

    Okay then.
     
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