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2021 Astros Minor League Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Dec 7, 2020.

  1. Joe Joe

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    I looked at list. It is garbage.

    Paredes (11) and Taylor (25) can't even crack Top 10. I know the prospect writers generally have a bias against reliever risk, but damn. When I saw the Top 10, I thought they were using the revised methodology for who is still a prospect like MLB Pipeline and FanGraphs.

    Edit: There is still a lot of risk that Paredes and Taylor aren't effective going forward as they've only seen limited MLB action. Though, I'd have guys that will play in major leaguers ranked ahead of guys that may never make it to the show.
     
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    Wrenn is the 2nd highest 2016 draftee that Houston has released (after 4th rounder Brett Adcock). 11 2016 draftees remain in the system:

    1 Forrest Whitley
    5 Abraham Toro
    19 Taylor Jones
    2 Ronnie Dawson
    9 Ryan Hartman
    14 Carson LaRue
    15 Alex De Goti
    18 Colin McKee
    8 Nick Hernandez
    11 Chad Donato
    12 Carment Benedetti

    # of draftees still in the system by year:
    2012: 2
    2013: 1
    2014: 1
    2015: 6
    2016: 11
    2017: 16
    2018: 23
    2019: 27
    2020: 4

    Incidentally, now that Springer is gone, no draftees remain from the 2011 draft, the last before Luhnow took over. That draft produced very little outside of Springer, who alone made it successful. Adrian Houser (2nd rd) is a decent BoR SP for Milwaukee and was part of the ill-fated Gomez trade. Others to reach the majors were Nick Tropeano (5th) and Matt Duffy (20th). 4th rounder LHP Chris Lee is still active but has yet to reach the big leagues.
     
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    I don't think this list factors in International players as some haven't officially signed.

    Astros 26th Farm System by BA.

    Sea 2
    LAA 22
    Rangers 24
    Oak 29

    While BA has errors in their system, the overall picture is likely right. Seattle has some top end talent. The other AL West teams don't have as much top end talent. I like the Astros Farm System more than LAA, Rangers, and Oakland, but it isn't by that much. Usually, I think Astros have better reliever depth/BoR depth than other AL West Teams that isn't being counted as upside, but will likely impact wins more than some upside.

    Astros still have Tucker, Alvarez, Framber, Javier, and Urquidy for 5 more years. As long as 4 of those 5 stay healthy and productive, Seattle's farm advantage is not likely to provide more club controlled MLB talent than that in any of the next 5 years even with Lewis and Sheffield.
     
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  5. Joe Joe

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    Law just did his Farm Rankings as well.
    Seattle 13
    LAA 23
    Rangers 24
    Houston 25
    Oakland 29
     
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    Yep, the Astros should be in contention to win their division thru 2025 at least.

    I wonder how much difference it would have made in these rankings if they’d had their 1st and 2nd rd picks last year. I do think over the course of both years losing their top 2 picks it will have meant a handful of spots lower.
     
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    If I remember correctly, the draft picks lost had a combined ~$15M in value (about 2 wins worth). If I recall correctly, there was about a $100M difference between 15th and 25th on FanGraphs last year. So probably 2-4 spots as differences get greater the better a team is ranked.
     
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    No, doubling the budget was nothing. Ten million dollars for covert ops against the Russian army is meaningless. What are you, an infant?
    - Gust Avrakotos (RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman)
     
  11. Snake Diggit

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    Updated roster projections after looking at the ST invite list:

    MLB:
    C: Maldonado, Castro
    IF: Gurriel, Altuve, Correa, Bregman, Diaz, Toro
    OF: Tucker, Straw, Brantley, Alvarez, Souza
    SP: Greinke, McCullers, Valdez, Urquidy, Javier
    RP: Stanek, Taylor, Raley, Paredes, Smith, Cishek, Baez, Pressly
    DL/DFA: Verlander, James, Pruitt, Emanuel

    AAA:
    C: Stubbs, Quintana, Shaver
    IF: Jones, Hinojosa, Pena, De Goti
    OF: McCormick, Siri, Dawson, De La Cruz, Meyers
    SP: Whitley, Abreu, Garcia, Bielak, Martes, Rodriguez, Hartman, Larue
    RP: Blanco, Garza, Scheetz, Ferrell, Velazquez, Scrubb
    DL/Released/Intactive: McKee, DeJuneas, Hernandez

    AA:
    C: Papierski, Manea
    IF: Adams, Valdez, Kessinger, Hensley, M Sierra
    OF: Leon, Adolph, Gonzalez, Costes, Matijevic
    SP: Ivey, Solis, Solomon, Conine, Dubin, Torres, Hansen, Henley, Deason, Donato
    RP: Mushinski, Record, Collado, Martinez
    DL/Released/Inactive: Salazar, Holderbach, Julks, Schreiber, Taylor, Daniels, Bermudez, Henderson, Benedetti, L Rodriguez, Rosado, Conn, Cabral, France, Ruppenthal, Freure

    High A:
    C: K Lee, Stubbs, Paulino
    IF: Santana, Nova, Perez, AJ Lee
    OF: Barefoot, Daniels, Brewer, McKenna, Abreu
    P: Brown, Brown, Chavez, Bravo, Cody, West, Sprinkle, Endersby, Gruller, Peck, Serrano, Gayle, Tejada
    DL/Released/Inactive: Biermann, Wielansky, Arias, Jordan, Rodriguez, Machado, Casey, McDonald, Ceballos, Plumlee, Horrell, Drennan, Holcomb, Dickey, Barry, Moclair

    A:
    C: Berryhill, Perry, Rodriguez
    IF: Lorenzo, Whitcomb, Correa, Carrasco, Zimmerman
    OF: Corona, Barber, Guerrero, Dirden, Orr
    P: Santos, Schroeder, Macuare, Gusto, Lopez, Lopez, Melendez, Cobos, Pacheco, Matthews, Ramirez, Tamarez, Taverez
    DL/Released/Intactive: Castillo, Krabbe, Gomez, Urdaneta, Ramirez, Mendoza, Cueta, Espinosa, Robaina, Bellozo, De Paula, Jaquez, Mejias, Jimenez, Garcia, Gonazlez, Pereira, CHavez,Rodriguez, Bojorquez
     
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    Houston Astros Top 30 Prospects, Ranked by Baseball America

    Grade and risk included.

    1. Forrest Whitley, RHP, 60/Extreme; listed as org's top 2021 MLB rookie
    2. Luis Garcia, RHP, 50/Medium
    3. Jeremy Pena, SS, 50/High
    4. Alex Santos, RHP, 55/Extreme
    5. Bryan Abreu, RHP, 50/High
    6. Tyler Ivey, RHP, 50/High
    7. Korey Lee, C, 50/Very High
    8. Hunter Brown, RHP, 50/Very High
    9. Colin Barber, OF, 50/Very High
    10. Grae Kessinger, SS/3B, 50/Very High
    11. Enoli Paredes, RHP, 45/Medium
    12. Chas McCormick, OF, 45/Medium
    13. Shawn Dubin, RHP, 45/High; tabbed as a breakout prospect
    14. Brett Conine, RHP, 45/High
    15. Jairo Solis, RHP, 50/Extreme
    16. Tyler Brown, RHP, 45/Very High
    17. Zach Daniels, OF, 50/Extreme; tabbed as a breakout prospect
    18. Freudis Nova, SS, 50/Extreme
    19. Jordan Brewer, OF, 45/Very High
    20. Shay Whitcomb, SS, 45/Very High; breakout prospect
    21. Dauri Lorenzo, SS, 50/Extreme
    22. Brandon Bielak, 40/Medium
    23. Juan Santander, C, 45/Extreme
    24. Jojanse Torres, RHP, 45/Medium
    25. Blake Taylor, LHP, 40/Medium
    26. Elvis Garcia, RHP, 45/Extreme
    27. Richi Gonzalez, OF, 45/Extreme
    28. Blair Henley, RHP, 40/High
    29. Peter Solomon, RHP, 40/High
    30. Austin Hansen, RHP, 40/High

    BA is now putting 10 more prospects to know at the end of each team's section in the Prospect Handbook. No grades here, however.

    31. Andre Scrubb, RHP
    32. Cionel Perez, LHP (book obviously published before he was traded)
    33. Taylor Jones, 1B
    34. Jairo Lopez, RHP
    35. Nivaldo Rodriguez, RHP
    36. Humberto Castellanos, RHP (before DFA)
    37. Jimmy Endersby, RHP; tagged as the sleeper prospect
    38. Luis Santana, 2B/3B
    39. Yohander Martinez, SS/3B/2B
    40. Jake Meyers, OF

    Best Tools

    Best hitter for average: Chas McCormick
    Best power hitter: Zach Daniels
    Best strike-zone discipline: Grae Kessinger
    Fastest baserunner: Daniels
    Best athlete: Daniels
    Best fastball: Hunter Brown (70)
    Best curveball: Bryan Abreu (60)
    Best slider: Abreu (70)
    Best changeup: Luis Garcia (70)
    Best control: Brett Conine
    Best defensive catcher: Korey Lee
    Best defensive infielder: Jeremy Pena (probably a tough decision here)
    Best infield arm: Freudis Nova
    Best defensive outfielder: Jake Meyers
    Best outfield arm: Richi Gonzalez (and he hasn't even played in an actual minor league game yet)
     
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    Daniels sure is getting a lot of hype for a late 4th round pick who has yet to play a professional game.
     
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    He's certainly in interesting one to watch. His physical tools are apparently stupidly good.

    He showed no actual skill at the sport until last season, but he finally showed something to support those tools.
     
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    Interesting that there are 4 members of Houston’s 7/2/19 international signing class and all 4 of their 2020 draftees in their BA Top 30. So 8 of their top 30 have yet to play a pro game.
     
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    Is Leon not on there because they don't have a lot to go on?
     
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    Pretty sure the list was put together before he signed.
     
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    This, Also, they and other teams also haven't seen him as bobrek suggested which if they had ranked Leon...he wouldn't have been in the Astros Top 10.
     
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    With Badler being pretty on top of the international market, BA is usually fairly aggressive in placing international prospects. I wonder how much it was based on how they looked when signed or if they've taken a step forward since.
     
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    Are we that bad? Are we headed towards a Drayton scenario where the farm is depleted and the roster is full of aging and expensive vets? Not today. But soon?
     

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