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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. T_Man

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    WOW!!!!

    Just WOW!!!!!

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  2. Os Trigonum

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    well, that's inconvenient

     
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  3. vlaurelio

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    yeah Biden clearly said flag burning are just hoaxes now
     
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  4. Os Trigonum

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    well, this is inconvenient

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/jobs-report-june-2020.html

    Record jobs gain of 4.8 million in June smashes expectations; unemployment rate falls to 11.1%
    Published Thu, Jul 2 20208:30 AM EDT

    Nonfarm payrolls soared by 4.8 million in June and the unemployment rate fell to 11.1% as the U.S. continued its reopening from the coronavirus pandemic, the Labor Department said Thursday.

    Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been expecting a 2.9 million increase and a jobless rate of 12.4%. The report was released a day earlier than usual due to the July Fourth holiday.

    The jobs growth marked a big leap from the 2.7 million in May, which was revised up by 190,000. The June total is easily the largest single-month gain in U.S. history.
    more at the link
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    This shows me that either we've just given up or just getting use to the living with COVID-19. This is why I've been arguing that a down economy might not be as much of a factor come November and Trump will tout any improvement from the depths of the crisis as being his success.
     
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  6. rocketsjudoka

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    The TV blast don't work otherwise Micheal Bloomberg would be the Democratic nominee. What still can work is targeted social media campaigns. That was largely how Trump neutralized Clinton's advantage in 2016.

    From what I see of my Trump supporting friends is that this strategy is still being heavily employed on social media and if anything has picked up the last month.
     
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  7. Major

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    Agreed - but social media advertising is so much cheaper to inundate people because of voluntary sharing. So while the cost of paid ads might be similar to TV, the reach is multiplied exponentially by the fanatics that repost everything (even the free posts). I don't think either campaign is going to be heavily limited on getting their message out due to a lack of money available. I do think it matters much more in down ballot campaigns where 50,000 people aren't going to retweet or share Joe Schmoe for State Rep ads.
     
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    Doesn't it just mean that people are returning to work following one of the worst job market crashes in the history of the country?
     
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    Inconvenient for who?

    11.1 % is 11.1%
     
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    Key words Trump supporting friends.

    Who do you see being affected by those adds other than his fans?

    What group of people do you see those adds flipping in 20/20?

    Not trying to put you on the spot just really want to know why you think those adds will be effective.
     
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    Wow
     
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    wow, they’re not even trying anymore

    might as well just go all the way and start off the next rally with a Hitler salute
     
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  14. Deckard

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    well, this is inconvenient.
     
    #1634 Deckard, Jul 2, 2020
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    I agree and judging by how much my Trump friends are reposting that definitely seems like the case.
     
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  16. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes but if we were really sticking to COVID-19 social distance and stay at home measures we likely wouldn't see so many people going back to work.
     
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    Trump has largely given up on trying to get new voters. He's trying to gin up enthusiasm among his current voters and dampening those who might vote against him. Saturating social media get's his base riled up and more willing to go out and vote. It also helps to sow confusion among low interest voters.
     
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    he's happy with his 30% base

    and he'll just suppress the votes of the other side
     
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    Inconvenient for who? For someone who complains about everyone else being obsessed, you seem to have serious issues.

    Doesn't really matter what Trump touts - no one believes him, and no one is voting on the economy anyway.

    Regardless, the unemployment numbers are staggeringly bad. Even with 2 record "good" months, unemployment is higher than the the 2008/2009 peak. Every week, more people are filing for unemployment than at any point in 2008/2009. I'm not sure why we're surprised that there are job gains in May and June. The whole country was shut down in April. Now only parts are shut down. Of course people are coming back to work. The problem is that most of these businesses are relying on PPP money to pay everyone. That money starts running out for most businesses over the next 2 months, and that's when you're going to starting seeing long-term layoffs and bankruptcies. The shutdowns this past week are also not accounted for in monthly payroll data, which is largely compiled from mid-month surveys. The economy is NOT getting better by any stretch of the imagination - its just being held together by a flood of government bailout money.
     
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  20. CometsWin

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    Well this is inconvenient.


     
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