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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. JayGoogle

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    Don't let Trump know, he'll start calling his victory.
     
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    Link?
     
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    Got em coach!
     
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    The USA was key in the break up of the CCCP way back then. Consider all this as payback from a KGB lieutenant colonel from that era.
    Mission completed, if you ask me.
     
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    RIP RCP
     
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    After four years, this is still what is top of mind for trump...

     
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    And this is is what the trump campaign is thinking, compared to what Joe Biden is doing...

     
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    @rocketsjudoka remember their avg of battleground states of ‘16 vs ‘20? I thought that was weird and I said they should know better. This Nate guy, and we all know who he is, throwing this out confirmed to me something went weird there. Goodbye RCP.
     
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    I don't recall exactly of what the RCP average was for battleground states was in 2016 but if it was close then I would say RCP was spot on then.

    As for this year we'll find out..
     
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    It was how they compared 2016 to 2020 that was an issue for me... they showed that the race is pretty much the same with their comparison.
     
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    This morning I've already seen three ads for Brock Pierce running for President. No idea who this guy is don't even recall if he was on my ballot, there were around 20 tickets listed on my ballot.

    He did quote Dune "fear is the mind killer" in one of his ads. I guess he's trying to capitalize on enthusiasm for the upcoming Dune movie..
     
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  14. rocketsjudoka

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    From what I can tell RCP averages appear to be pretty in line with the base polls Silver uses. The difference is that Silver weighs the polls whereas RCP just averages them. If Silver is claiming that RCP is throwing out polls that's certainly possible but seeing polling from other news sources (CBS, NYT, MSNBC, etc..) the RCP average doesn't seem like it is radically off. Which makes sense since it is using those polls as base material.

    As I said though we'll find out.
     
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    They missed on Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and very badly on Wisconsin in 2016.
     
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    For or against Trump? If they missed badly on Trump in WI I can see why they might be tempted to not use polls that seem like outliers for Biden.

    From what I've seen this year they've included polls that seem like outliers for Biden.
     
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    They use a simple avg. There are real limitation with that but still useful as a simple quick tool. What they did this cycle was selectively left out some polls that were, Nate claimed, all against Biden. I saw at least one instance of that - for PA avg, they left the last Time poll (from this past Sat) off their avg. One instance might be a mistake. Nate saw a pattern.

    Again, they showed that the battle states avg in 2016 is the same as 2020. I know how they got to that and it’s just wrong. They showed Pa as a 2 to 1 favor for Biden which is very different from what other like Nate and 538 have. A big part of that reason is they left out the Siena poll completely.
     
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    They left off polls for Biden or against Biden?
     
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    Since I believe you are in MN and we know the Trump campaign is focused on MN, my guess is they are funding those ads. Pulling the lever on those ads this close to the polls opening because they know it’ll draw negative attention when it’s inevitably found out that they are behind it. There’s no way third party candidates like this guy have the money to afford those tv ads today.
     
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