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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    u need to stop lying,

    who do u think ur, DJ Trump !!​
     
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    What cities would you consider not liberal? Genuinely curious here...


    Maybe OKC?
     
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  4. Amiga

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    it’s not crazy because Rasmussen has almost always been an outlier..

    I will add that sometime very high quality pollster also have outlier. It’s rare but it happens.
     
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    Why look at polls? They had Hilary winning last time?
     
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    Fort Worth!
     
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  7. adoo

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    U forgot, in 2019, Trump’s Co receiving China’s approval to operate escort services in the PRC, awa Ivanka winning trademarks to do business there
     
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    Lol
     
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    Where are you getting your news? I am curious
     
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    When your boy is indicted by the State of NY when is no longer President, cling to the fact u think he pure as the driven snow.
     
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    Trump
     
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    I am not sure if you are naive or just ignorant

    1. US is in the middle east for strategic reason. Pulling out has simply given Russia and China more space to spread their influence which has negative effects on US interests. The more influence US has in other countries the more we can influence things to our benefit. One can debate the level of presence to be maintained but pulling out and leaving the region to Russia and China is simply stupid and will cost us in the short and long term. There is a difference between 1 and 1st, but seems you cant have confused 'America first' with 'America alone'.
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    2. A debt financed economy is not a great economy. Trump basically ran the US economy like he ran his companies - with huge debts. He had the Feds maintain historic low rates, which propped up the stock market (profiting the wealthy) and giving a false image of growth. In his first term he has added about $7 Trillion to the national debt. That is almost as much as the $8.5 trillion Obama added over 8 years, and Obama inherited an economy in recession. Incuring debt at 2x the rate we did coming out of recession is not a sign of a great economy.

    Like many, you have been conned by Trump
     
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    all while actually increasing the trade deficit with china, creating the highest bankruptcy rate for farmers in 9 years, losing more coal jobs than the previous administration, and he still had time to have one of the worst responses to a pandemic out of any developed country in the world.
     
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    Its almost unbelievable the level damage Trump has done to the economy and society of this country.

    I think one of the issues with his followers is that they are mentally lazy, preferring to believe what they are told instead of objectively sourcing their own info
     
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    #6236 Amiga, Nov 2, 2020
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    Last time Clinton was a +2, Biden is a +8. I know math is hard for some Trump cultists, I remember one being interviewed that said she didn't believe in numbers (I'd love to sell her a bridge...) but that's magnitudes of difference.

    People go on and on about the 2016 polls, not realizing that they never said Trump had a 0% chance at winning, he had around 34 IIRC chance of winning. Again, he'd have a batting average that any MLB player would be proud of.

    This year he's batting .100. Sure, he might get a hit against the shift that sneaks through and score, he might hit a homerun, but he has less of a chance and I'm sure the GOP would have loved to pinch hit for him right about now.

    People go on and on about these polls but what about the 2018 polls? They were correct. They predicted a big Democrat house win and that's exactly what happened.

    The polls also correctly predicted that the DNC would pick up gubernatorial seats but not quite overtake the GOP.

    They predicted the GOP would retain the Senate and that's exactly what happens. The polls, more often than not, are correct. Also, pollsters take their job quite seriously and have sought to correct errors from 2016 to make the polls more accurate.

    This is not to say Trump has a 0% chance, clearly, he has a shot, just like a .100 batter has a shot at getting a hit...

    Ahh, why even waste my time, I know Trump supporters are allergic to data, science, and facts.
     
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    Biden has several other paths using NC, GA, and/or AZ. Biden can lose both FL and PA and just win any of those 3 and still win.
     
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    Perhaps he’s assuming that a Trump win in those states means he’s more likely to win the other ones than the current models suggest.
     
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    Trump having a 1/10 chance of winning still scares the hell out of me.
     

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