2020 Presidential Election

I just have one question ....


Did stop running the add ?

 

Will it though? We've moved so far away from snail mail as a society, there might actually be more transaction friction in printing the form, finding an envelope, finding the mailing address, finding a stamp versus going to a polling place.

 

Wish it were someone younger than these old fogies. Wish it was Yang, or even Pete. Klobuchar would have been fine too.

Too bad the Dems are too stupid and keep putting up candidates that are flawed.

I'll still vote for him as the lesser of two evils. Trump is gonna beat him up over the dementia issue though.

 

Punishing China without burning the house down has always been a tough issue since the turn of the millennium. The WHO is in a rock and a hard place. China has the data, equipment and brazen execution to provide useful intel to the global health community, but they're also selfish, duplicitous, and overreactive dicks. Baby D shares many of the CCP's personality failings, and needs an out as the domestic situation spirals out of his control.

There's already resentment growing against China and Chinese visitors. The Wuhan poured hot napalm over the situation.

Not going to be easy for Biden to navigate, especially if every election is now scorched earth.

China Is Going to Be a Republican Wedge Issue

Donald Trump has mastered the art of using daily press briefings on the Covid-19 pandemic as a way of exciting his base. While his approval ratings remain low compared to other world leaders’, they are near a high point for his presidency, thanks in no small part to the drama of the briefings. He often lashes out at reporters during the question and answer period, an effective way to please the media-allergic Republican base.

On Tuesday, the most notable drama involved Trump browbeating Youyou Wang, a reporter from Hong Kong. Wang asked Trump if he was cooperating with China. Trump turned the question on the reporter and asked, “Who are you working for, China?” Trump kept pressing Wang on this question as she explained that she was with Hong Kong–based Phoenix Television. “Who owns that, China?” Trump inquired.

The incident gave Trump the headlines he was surely hoping for, with right-wing pundits celebrating him for his bold disregard for political correctness in standing up to a foreign interloper. It was a perfect bit of theater for Trump, because Phoenix TV is a pro-Beijing outlet, so he could be seen as taking an indirect swipe at the government without a direct confrontation.

This culture war theatrics had the useful effect for Trump of allowing him to continue to cast himself as an opponent of China, while not fighting the Chinese government directly. Since the start of the coronavirus crisis, Trump has used the Asian country as a scapegoat to take the blame for the failures of his administration to competently address the pandemic.

Yet there has been a wrinkle in Trump’s anti-China stance. Until recently, he and his administration have referred to Covid-19 as “the Chinese virus” or “the Wuhan virus.” Trump stopped using these phrases around March 24th, after criticism that they were inflaming racism. On March 27, Trump had a phone conversation with Chinese President Xi Jinping that might have reinforced this shift. The move away from these phrases is likely influenced by the fact that the United States is dependent on China for medical supplies. China is the only country in the world that has the productive capacity to supply quickly the ventilators and personal protective equipment on the scale demanded by a global emergency.

Because of the need to continue trade with China, at least until the United States rebuilds its manufacturing and pharmaceutical infrastructure, relations with China are in a curious stalemate. It’s not quite a Cold War yet, but perhaps the cusp of a Cold War, with the United States continuing to keep the business relationship with China open but also nursing plans for retribution once the crisis is over.

As Stewart Patrick of the Council of Foreign relations explained to Politico, “This is a case where it’s important to call China out on behavior that endangers global public health, but it’s also important to bear in mind the urgent over the merely important.” He added, “We have a common enemy here.”

As a result of the medical emergency and the need for Chinese goods, the Trump administration is being uncharacteristically tactful, preferring to use indirect methods to challenge China rather than an open confrontation. Trump’s press conference spat with Youyou Wang was one example of an elliptical fight. His threat to cut funding for the World Health Organization (WHO) because it is “very China-centric” falls into the same pattern: targeting not China but an organization that can be linked to China.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was similarly roundabout when asked on Tuesday why he was no longer using the phrase “Wuhan virus.” Pompeo gave a lengthy answer about the need for other nations to be transparent about the spread of the virus, but he notably did not mention China by name.

While the Trump administration is engaged in rhetorical feints, congressional Republicans are becoming more blunt about their desire to inflict retribution on China. As Politico reports:

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jim Risch (R-Idaho) joined calls for a WHO probe on Tuesday, including an examination of whether U.S. funding of the group should be revoked. Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.) recently called on the State Department to conduct its own investigation into China’s role, while Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) wants Beijing to forgive U.S. debt and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) is looking to sanction Chinese officials.​

All signs point to Republicans’ not only ramping up anti-China rhetoric but also using China as a wedge issue in the fall election. It has the potential to be very effective in dividing the left, since Democrats are already split on China policy.​

 

There are Republican never Trumpers such as Rick Wilson who have said they are going to use the same tactics they used against Democrats against Trump. In other words get down and dirty.

 

You have an argument on principle but it's a losing argument. If your principle was widely accepted Hillary Clinton should've won tons of libel suits considering it was standard GOP fare to take her comments out of context, "What does it matter?" "We're going to destroy West Virginia's coal industry"..

The courts have taken a very broad view of political speech and I think this would be an easy call for a court to dismiss a libel suit on this ad.
Where the principle matters is to fact checkers and I have no problem with fact checkers stating that this ad might be misleading. One problem though is that Trump and his supporters have attacked fact checkers and claimed they are dishonest. It would be hypocrisy of them to now go crying to Snopes to defend them.

 

I didn’t find anything misleading about the ad. It’s a compilation of statements he’s made regarding the seriousness of the coronavirus. Quite frankly he sounds worse with full context

 

Addressing a two points.
Regarding Trump going after Biden for supposedly having dementia. I'm sure he will that said let's remember Trump frequently mangles even simple words and slurs such trying to say "The United States of America". He has on several occasions appeared lost and disoriented even on the White House lawn. If it was me I would be making commercials showing stuff like that.

Regarding the PRC. Trump's probably will try to play "the China Card" his history with the PRC is anything but consistent. There is the famous Letterman appearance where he bragged about making his ties in China. As President though he has praised Xi Jinping as recently as a week ago. He also lifted sanctions on Chinese Telecom ZTE (a company sanctioned for selling sensitive US technology) the same week that the PRC invested half a billion into a Trump branded project and also allowed copyrights on Ivanka brands to proceed in the PRC. Trump tweeted That's a two-fer it shows both that Trump is completely inconsistent on the PRC and also that he's corrupt.

If it's me I'm running ads on that.

 

If it is truly your own speech, you cant sue someone else for libel

 

No you cant. If you sleep and dream that you did, you should wake up immediately and apologize to a STOP sign

 

They can say it until their voices are hoarse but I keenly remember how Rince Pubis got other candidates to STFU and kiss the ring by withholding Republican dark web money.

Outside of Bain Capital Romney, I haven't heard much a peep or hot winded fart from them. Quite frankly, I can't tell which end they're using anymore.

China is a licensing profiteer's dream. If you have a worldwide brand, you can sell it to them and their sweatshops will crank out items to shill.

Trump and his greedy spawnlings has a lot more to lose by going to the deep end, but I'm not sure if his deep end is the same as mine.

 

Another election and another round of vote suppression and dienfrachisement plots by the GOP.

For a country that touts itself the leader of the free world, it is sad that elections in the US are not truly free.

At some point, the citizens will have to demand the government institute a fairer system.

 

It's just Trump's way of making immigrants from banana dictatorships feel welcome. That's how much he loves the immigrants.

 

Nancy Pelosi's New Anti-Trump Ad Should Bury Him In The Polls

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/04/nancy-pelosis-new-anti-trump-ad-should




Speaker Nancy Pelosi unleashed a devastating ad against Trump, laying waste to any delusion his supporters might have that he is handling this pandemic competently or with care. It runs clips of him downplaying the danger posed by COVID-19, despite clear warnings from people in his own administration as early as January.

TRUMP: Stay calm./We have it totally under control./We're in great shape./One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear./This is their new hoax.
It charts the rise of illness and death ravaging the nation, the toll being taken on doctors, nurses, caregivers, while superimposing him trumpeting his desire to eliminate the Affordable Care Act.

TRUMP: What we want to do is terminate it.
It shows our journalistic crown jewel, Rachel Maddow, making a dire prediction that has already come true:

MADDOW: This is the kind of useless national response that's going to result in the deaths of thousands and thousands.
Then it shows him uttering the words that should be the chyron of every network every time they air his repugnant presence live:

TRUMP: No, I don't take responsibility at all.
It ends with the words, "He fiddles while Americans die," and the haunting sound of a heart monitor's flat-lining beep.

Nicolle Wallace showed that ad today, then followed it up with this:

WALLACE: It's tape like that, those clips of Donald Trump in his own words at official public events, that represent either Donald Trump telling deliberate lies or showcasing a gross misunderstanding of what a pandemic is, that have his allies people like Lindsey Graham very worried today. According to The New York Times, Graham says, quote, "I told him your opponent is no longer Joe Biden, it's the virus." And Lindsey Graham is not alone. The Times adds, Mr. Trump's re-election campaign, staff members have closely monitored internal polling data that shows an erosion of the gains Mr. Trump made immediately after he put social distancing guidelines in place. Advisers are torn between knowing that a less abrasive approach would help Mr. Trump, and their awareness that he can't tolerate criticism, regardless of the setting.
His allies are worried? Good. Lindsey Graham is sh*tting his pants? Excellent. I hope every single one of those enabling Republican sons-of-b****es have to wear diapers 24/7 because they are terrified of the next word that comes out of the monster they elevated to destroy this government and the people who live in this nation.

Advisors are torn? They their boss doesn't like criticism? Boo-f*cking-hoo. How many of them voted to have him removed from office when they had the chance?

T_Man

 

snowflake-in-chief is suing a TV channel for airing a political ad...

Trump campaign sues TV station over Democratic super PAC ad

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...-sues-tv-station-over-democratic-super-pac-ad